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  • stealthradon
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    #2851
    Originally posted by Morrie ATG
    Lol... ggg was the “beast” at 160 since 2008.... was Ward retired? How about 2010? 2011? 2012?

    The “all of the belts” gimmick started after beating Lemieux, or else Gennady would’ve said “I want Undisputed” since 2010.

    Nelo gonna knock out Lil’G in May? You guys ain’t worried?
    Couldn't stop or even floor Lara.


    Couldn't stop Cotto.


    Couldn't stop Chavez Jr.


    Couldn't stop Mosley or kd him

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    • icha
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      #2852
      Originally posted by kafkod
      Smith said he shouldn't have to do VADA because he was already being tested year round by UKAD, and he was given an exemption. I've never heard of a UK fighter being exempt from VADA because of UKAD before, and they are all tested by UKAD.

      AJ and Tyson Fury, I know for a fact, were tested by both UKAD and VADA before their world title fights, and I've no reason to believe that other UK fighters are treated any different from them. Except for Liam Smith, when he fought Canelo in Texas.

      And Smith being exempted from VADA gave Canelo an excuse to be exempted from VADA also, so he wasn't tested at all in the run up to the fight, by VADA or anybody else.

      Smith and his team didn't object to that .. you don't think they might possibly have known it was going to happen in advance, and got a bit of extra money from GBP for going along with it? I do.

      And I don't understand why you are making such a fuss about VADA testing for one of GGG's fights only starting a month before the date - that's a week earlier than when he fought on Oscar's show, and not unusual for world title fights that have VADA testing, from what I've seen. As long as both fighters start at the same time, they have a level playing field, and nobody has anything to complain about.
      so canelo did not ask for an exemption, thats what i thought, the rest is nothing but speculation from you, you know like the time you said ggg carried the canelo fight in order to get a rematch, right?? i mean 500 punches missed in order to get a rematch, lol... cool...

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        #2853
        Originally posted by kafkod
        He's busy looking after his invisible elephant.

        Invisible elephants are a bastard to live with. You never know when a huge pile of steaming shit is going to suddenly appear in front of you out of nowhere ...

        Kind of like visiting this thread, now I come to think about it!

        Hopefully he's learning to read a scale without a calculator

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        • stealthradon
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          #2854
          Originally posted by icha
          so canelo did not ask for an exemption, thats what i thought, the rest is nothing but speculation from you, you know like the time you said ggg carried the canelo fight in order to get a rematch, right?? i mean 500 punches missed in order to get a rematch, lol... cool...
          400 missed punches from Canelo..

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          • kafkod
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            #2855
            Originally posted by icha
            so canelo did not ask for an exemption, thats what i thought, the rest is nothing but speculation from you, you know like the time you said ggg carried the canelo fight in order to get a rematch, right?? i mean 500 punches missed in order to get a rematch, lol... cool...
            "Alvarez was previously enrolled in VADA while serving as the WBC (World Boxing Council) – and lineal – middleweight champion, as part of the sanctioning body’s Clean Boxing Program. All bouts under the au****es of the WBC now require VADA-run random drug testing."



            The September 17 super welterweight title fight between unbeaten defending beltholder Liam Smith and former two-division champ Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez will no lon


            Smith also withdrew from VADA, using UKAD as excuse. But please don't give me any more of that, if the champ didn't want it nonsense.
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            Smith may have been the champ, but he was an insignificant B side to Canelo ... a nobody, plucked from obscurity and given the biggest payday of his life on a GBP PPV show.

            I have no doubt at all that Smith was doing exactly what Oscar and Eric Gomez told him to do.

            Only a hypocrite would point the finger of su****ion at GGG for not starting VADA till a month out, and give Canelo a pass for not doing it at all for at least one championship fight..

            Only an even bigger hypocrite would keep pointing the finger at GGG, who is enrolled on the WBC VADA year round random testing program, and say nothing about Canelo withdrawing from VADA completely as soon as he gave up his WBC belt.
            Last edited by kafkod; 02-23-2018, 03:22 PM.

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            • TonyGe
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              #2856
              Originally posted by Morrie ATG
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              The only kats that insist to justify Golovkin are the same guys that insisted Pac was going to beat Floyd. This is why you love bumping Artorias Boxing channel. Slow motion Pac beating Floyd...

              1lb
              PAC did beat Floyd and G did go over 160 10 years ago.

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              • Shape up
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                #2857
                Originally posted by Morrie ATG
                I’ll make it easier for you to understand. When Pacquiao fought Margarito, was he a Super Welterweight? If you say yes, then should Pacquiao have continued at Super Welterweight there on?

                When Marquez hit 142 on the Welterweight scales against Pacquiao, was Marquez the known Welterweight? What weight was Marquez hitting on his Welterweight bouts? Use boxrec.

                Thurman and Porter fought above 147 before, are they Welterweights or Super Welterweights?

                Crawford at 135 fought at 153 on fight night. Is he a Super Welterweight?

                Zurdo fights close to 190lbs on fight night, what is he?

                The whole Caneloweight became tacky in saying he weighed more than Golovkin on fight night. As if HBO would disclose his real weight, hence “unofficial scale.”

                It's not that hard, if your fighting in a certain weight division, for that fight you are whatever division your fighting in, should participate be seen as a LW, he fought in that division, 5 of canelos last 7 fights have been in the MW division, 1 at SMW and 1 at JMW, if he wanted to be seen as a JMW he should have stayed there

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                • Morrie ATG
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                  #2858
                  Originally posted by TonyGe
                  PAC did beat Floyd and G did go over 160 10 years ago.
                  There’s always an interesting mysticism how GGG boys never criticize the Pac boys claiming that Pac beat Floyd... it’s usually mute... and that’s very odd..

                  That only means that the GGG boys are the converts from Pac which is why they don’t say anything.

                  It’s very interesting.

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                  • Morrie ATG
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                    #2859
                    Originally posted by Shape up
                    It's not that hard, if your fighting in a certain weight division, for that fight you are whatever division your fighting in, should participate be seen as a LW, he fought in that division, 5 of canelos last 7 fights have been in the MW division, 1 at SMW and 1 at JMW, if he wanted to be seen as a JMW he should have stayed there
                    Again... take a good look at this pic.

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                    • icha
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                      #2860
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      "Alvarez was previously enrolled in VADA while serving as the WBC (World Boxing Council) – and lineal – middleweight champion, as part of the sanctioning body’s Clean Boxing Program. All bouts under the au****es of the WBC now require VADA-run random drug testing."



                      The September 17 super welterweight title fight between unbeaten defending beltholder Liam Smith and former two-division champ Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez will no lon


                      Smith also withdrew from VADA, using UKAD as excuse. But please don't give me any more of that, if the champ didn't want it nonsense.
                      ..
                      Smith may have been the champ, but he was an insignificant B side to Canelo ... a nobody, plucked from obscurity and given the biggest payday of his life on a GBP PPV show.

                      I have no doubt at all that Smith was doing exactly what Oscar and Eric Gomez told him to do.

                      Only a hypocrite would point the finger of su****ion at GGG for not starting VADA till a month out, and give Canelo a pass for not doing it at all for at least one championship fight..

                      Only an even bigger hypocrite would keep pointing the finger at GGG, who is enrolled on the WBC VADA year round random testing program, and say nothing about Canelo withdrawing from VADA completely as soon as he gave up his WBC belt.
                      bla, bla , bla... but, but, smith received orders from golden boy as well as wba doe... again you keep bringing your speculation but if someone does it for ggg you call him hypocrite... if you dont have proof then is nothing but speculation, i dont care if its ggg or canelo, it works both ways..

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