Can someone explain to aboutfkntime

[aboutfkntime]

excuse-making, casual-fan, muppets.....

when you dumb fk's heard all that "anyone from 154-168" nonsense..... who did YOU think that Golovkin wanted to fight..... ?

..... if not Cotto Canelo Ward, then who..... Rosado? lol

[aboutfkntime]

Sure thing, cap'n weird.*salutes*

you have the option of answering these questions.....

.... but, you won't.....

you will drop a quick one-liner, and then be gone.....

maybe it is best if you don't spend too much time here

when you dumb fk's heard all of that "anyone from 154-168" nonsense..... who did YOU think he wanted to fight?..... if not Cotto Canelo Ward, then who..... Rosado? lol

why did Golovkin totally refuse to negotiate on weight with SUPERSTARS..... despite the fact that he was willing to negotiate on weight with NO-HOPER'S?

why did Golovkin say this..... " middleweight is 160 " ?

why did Golovkin say this about 159lb Kell Brook..... "he is not a middleweight. He just isn't"?

explain the FUNCTIONAL difference between 153.9 and 154.1.....

FACT: refusing to fight opponent-A at 155, but then offering to fight opponent-B at 154..... is a flat out duck of opponent-A

[aboutfkntime]

FACT: refusing to fight opponent-A at 155, but then offering to fight opponent-B at 154..... is a flat out duck of opponent-A

[stealthradon]

kid..... stop misquoting me, you spastic.....

155 not Middleweight - according to Aboutfkntime
156 not Middleweight - according to Aboutfkntime
157 not Middleweight - according to Aboutfkntime
158 not Middleweight - according to Aboutfkntime
159 not Middleweight - according to Aboutfkntime
160 Middleweight - according to Aboutfkntime


FACT: you are a calculator wielding ***wit.....

so..... how come you cannot figure out that 155 < 160 ?

154.1 - 160.0 Middleweight according to every single boxing organisation on the planet. And probably other planets as well.

[stealthradon]

2015-05-09 : Saul Alvarez 154½ lbs beat James Kirkland 154½ lbs by KO at 2:19 in round 3 of 12
Location: Minute Maid Park, Houston, Texas, USA
Referee: Jon Schorle
Judge: David Iacobucci
Judge: Levi Martinez
Judge: Barry Yeats
Non-title junior middleweight bout. Kirkland without longtime trainer Ann Wolfe for this bout.


http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Sa...James_Kirkland

jmw fighters do their CW fights above 154, mw fighters do it above 160, learn your boxing...

The currently-recognized weights for professional male boxers, listed in maximum allowable weight for each division/class/category, as defined by these four major sanctioning bodies, are:

Super Welterweight
Jr Middleweight 11 st 69,85 kg 154 lbs
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Weight_divisions

[Citizen Koba]

you have the option of answering these questions.....

.... but, you won't.....

you will drop a quick one-liner, and then be gone.....

maybe it is best if you don't spend too much time here

Well, you got me all figured out, aincha bud? Well done!

[aboutfkntime]

guys, a more serious post.....

one that I hope you will at least consider

before Smith, Canelo had never weighed more than 1 pound over the JMW limit..... and he had never faced a middleweight opponent

based on those two factors, there is nothing to even suggest that Canelo was a middleweight

this is what Canelo is guilty of.....

1) the fat cvnt allowed himself an extra pound that may not have benefited his JMW opponents quite as much as it benefited him
2) not immediately dropping the bogus middleweight title that he won by beating an old faded 153lb JMW, at 155

Canelo was not a middleweight champion's ass-hole..... Golovkin was the man at 160, Canelo should not have been ranked..... especially after stating this immediately following the Cotto fight..... "I have no interest in middleweight"..... and especially after making 154 for Liam Smith

FACT: the jmw's ALL struggle to make weight - to varying degree's, ALL of them..... and many of them struggle just as much as Canelo does

but Canelo had the star-power ($$$) to convince his JMW opponents to agree to 155..... and it's not like he was draining any of them..... those guys made weight easier at 155, just like Canelo did

he is no different from any of those other JMW's, apart from the fact that he is red ($$$)

you have all heard how Lara/Angulo/etc have fought higher than 154 more often than Canelo did

come on guys, this is LITERALLY all you have.....

the tiny percentage of a pound, somewhere between 154 and 155, that Canelo weighed prior to his fights at 155

and often it was not even a whole pound..... because I can recall him weighing 154.5 against someone, Kirkland I think it was

a small percentage of a single pound is LITERALLY all you guys have..... which is ridiculous, hence my pile of unanswered questions

look, I tell you what.....

I will admit that Golovkin did not duck Canelo at 155, simply because they were in different divisions..... despite the fact that Golovkin talked all of that 154 smack..... and despite the fact that AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Canelo, Golovkin called out other JMW's at 154..... not a good look, but I will readily admit that Golovkin did not avoid that fight..... simply because those guys were in different divisions

that way, you guys kill this awkward, uncomfortable, impossible, question.....

why did Golovkin totally refuse to negotiate on weight with SUPERSTARS..... despite the fact that he was willing to negotiate on weight with NO-HOPER'S?

..... but, that would mean that you guys would also have to admit that those guys were in different divisions..... which has been your problem to date

you guys are actually fk'ing yourselves..... you are killing yourselves over a silly technicality that made NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER to a JMW's ability to perform against genuine middleweight opponents..... AND YOU KNOW IT

FACT: the total amount of functional muscle-mass and conditioning that you can take into a fight is determined at the OFFICIAL weigh-in..... and 155 =/= 160

that way, we can put this thread to rest

what I am proposing is, that we all agree to the following.....

there was no ducking, by either party..... those guys were in different divisions, and were unwilling to budge on their respective terms..... meaning that the timing was not right for that fight to happen until Canelo officially moved up

and believe me, I am letting you guys off the hook BIG-TIME..... because, there was all of that 154 talk from Golovkin, both before and AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Canelo..... and, kafkod just basically admitted that..... refusing to fight opponent-A at 155, but then offering to fight opponent-B at 154..... is a flat out duck of opponent-A

but, I will leave it..... and I promise to never again accuse Golovkin of ducking Canelo..... and I will agree to the following statement.....

"those guys were in different divisions, and were unwilling to budge on their respective terms..... meaning that the timing was not right for that fight to happen"

..... just to put this thread to bed, and move on

..... but, that would mean that you guys would also have to admit that those guys were in different divisions.....

your call ^^

or, we can sit here all fkn year, it makes no difference whatsoever to me..... because, this thread has not really turned out how you guys first envisaged..... has it?

just a thought

oh btw, I must be honest about my offer..... it does NOT extend to Cotto..... no fkn way..... he is different, that is a different situation

think about it

here is why you should think about it.....

because, if not, this is your destiny.....

FACT: this question will be the last man standing in this thread, and I am sure that you all realize that.....

why did Golovkin totally refuse to negotiate on weight with SUPERSTARS..... despite the fact that he was willing to negotiate on weight with NO-HOPER'S?

and of course, the elephant.....



by agreeing, you kill both the impossible question, and the elephant

your call, and I cannot be more fair than that ^^

I cannot believe that you guys were offered a way to slink out the back door, with at least a tiny bit of pride left.....but you flatly refused

just like when Gennady trashed his pride when he crawled up his own "154-168" ass by refusing to negotiate with the fat red kid

gold

[icha]

154.1 - 160.0 Middleweight according to every single boxing organisation on the planet. And probably other planets as well.

please tell us why no organization on the planet has ranked or considered lara as a MW fighter despite the fact he has double the fights than canelo above 154 ??? thats right, those were CW fights... and jmw fighters do their cws above 154,...

[aboutfkntime]

Super Welterweight
Jr Middleweight 11 st 69,85 kg 154 lbs
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Weight_divisions

for the record, that was your opportunity to smarten up

Originally Posted by icha
2015-05-09 : Saul Alvarez 154½ lbs beat James Kirkland 154½ lbs by KO at 2:19 in round 3 of 12
Location: Minute Maid Park, Houston, Texas, USA
Referee: Jon Schorle
Judge: David Iacobucci
Judge: Levi Martinez
Judge: Barry Yeats
Non-title junior middleweight bout. Kirkland without longtime trainer Ann Wolfe for this bout.


http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Sa...James_Kirkland

jmw fighters do their CW fights above 154, mw fighters do it above 160, learn your boxing...

not at all surprised that you are unaware of that fact

stay dumb, kid

[Morrie ATG]

Aboutdkntime and others got a point.

Cotto, Mayweather, Alvarez were the only GUARANTEED PPV super fights that followed Golovkin’s instructions for 154 to north was easy. Who else would Gennady have fought that would guarantee a PPV that GUARANTEED HIGH PPV?

Gennady isn’t a dummy. He saw how bigger Trout was to Cotto, so why didn’t Gennady offer Cotto 154 before even going to Middleweight to fight Martinez? He said he could do 154 back in 2013. Even so, Canelo told Fight Hype he would fight Golovkin at Caneloweightt, before Alvarez even fought Cotto.

But ggg fanboys will just say “but an HBO meeting was the reason Ward ducked” all when Gennady never even said he wanted Ward, not his focus...