Can someone explain to aboutfkntime

[aboutfkntime]

Canelo struck a deal with Liam Smith which meant that he didn't have to do any prefight PED testing at all for their fight. That's why he was able to make 154 for the first time in years.

Because he would have had to do VADA tests to defend it, Canelo relinquished his JMW title after winning it and fought Chavez at SMW, then went back back down to MW for GGG.

In a title fight, weighing in even one gram over the JMW limit means that you are not a JMW and cannot contest a JMW title.

You can post as many insults and specious arguments as you like, but the rules on weight limits for title fights are up there in black and white for anyone to see.

lol, so now you clowns are pulling PED stories out of your ass?

pulling the PED card is even worse than pulling the race card

link me to proof of that, or file that excuse where it came from..... which is the same place those other excuses belong..... back up your ass

[aboutfkntime]

let's not forget the REAL reason why the Golov-ladies have decided to continually embarrass themselves.....


* happy to give Rosado a catchweight

* happy to give Brook a catchweight

* happy to fight everyone else at 154.....





everyone EXCEPT for Cotto and Canelo lol

give it up clowns

[GGG Gloveking]

I have explained it to you on multiple occasions already

will once more really make a difference ?

o, k, then.....

in order to be classified as a genuine middleweight..... a fighter would need to be preparing to make 160, in order to fight a middleweight opponent..... and he would need to be conditioned to making that weight.....

..... because we all know that 159lb Brook was no middleweight.....

" he is not middleweight, He just isn't "
~ Golovkin, immediately following the fight

you are attempting to label a fighter by the technical classification of the bout..... which is horribly flawed, and terribly ignorant

which is why you casual-fan ***wits have been running around calling 155lb Canelo, 153lb Cotto, and 159lb Brook, middleweights

did the 16th explanation do the trick, or shall I try for 17?

why are you so ****** ?

What would you call someone who competes below the upper limit of a division, if they're not genuine? And how long, or how many fights does one have to compete in at the full weight of a division to be considered a genuine member of that division? If a fighter wins a championship below the division maximum, do we consider that genuine? If not, what do we consider it? Further, if a champion defends his title below the division minimum, do we consider that genuine? What do we call that which isn't genuine?

[aboutfkntime]

What would you call someone who competes below the upper limit of a division, if they're not genuine? And how long, or how many fights does one have to compete in at the full weight of a division to be considered a genuine member of that division? If a fighter wins a championship below the division maximum, do we consider that genuine? If not, what do we consider it? Further, if a champion defends his title below the division minimum, do we consider that genuine? What do we call that which isn't genuine?

umm..... that is called fake

what do you usually call something that is not genuine ?

1) it was 1 fkn pound, so get a grip..... and it was clearly obvious that Canelo could make 154 whenever he wanted..... which he did, for Smith

2) Canelo was fighting JMW opponents, NOT middleweights..... which is why he only came in weighing 155

3) if you were not aware that Canelo would be better/stronger at 160, then you should not be here..... and if you were aware of that fact, then calling 155lb Canelo a middleweight is a ridiculous fanboy excuse ,

you casual-fan muppet's need to put away your calculators.... use some common-sense.... and stop being so ******

[aboutfkntime]

I remember having that debate with kafkod

" it is 1 pound you fkn moron..... and it is clearly obvious that Canelo can make 154 whenever he wants..... "

kafkod: b,b,b,but.....

then..... Canelo won the WBO title at 154

kafkod: b,b,b,but.....

now, kafkod says that Canelo was on PED's lol

can you say..... the second ****tiest fanbase EVER

[GGG Gloveking]

umm..... that is called fake

what do you usually call something that is not genuine ?

1) it was 1 fkn pound, so get a grip..... and it was clearly obvious that Canelo could make 154 whenever he wanted..... which he did, for Smith

2) Canelo was fighting JMW opponents, NOT middleweights..... which is why he only came in weighing 155

3) if you were not aware that Canelo would be better/stronger at 160, then you should not be here..... and if you were aware of that fact, then calling 155lb Canelo a middleweight is a ridiculous fanboy excuse ,

you casual-fan muppet's need to put away your calculators.... use some common-sense.... and stop being so ******

Ok, it's called fake if not at the full weight class limit. So that makes Floyd vs Canelo fake, a while lot of Pac fights fake, Canelo and Cotto and Khan was fake. And a hypothetical offer of 155 would be fake too, right?

How about Brook? It was at the full 160 against a conditioned 160. Is it a genuine MW fight then? And for GGG, is it called fake also, or is there a different term?

[Shape up]

put down your calculator you fkn spastic lol

SMW is 168..... jeez you casual fans are idiots

he fought at CATCH-WEIGHT, in a one-off circus fight

only an idiot casual-fan would call Canelo a SMW

fk you clowns are morons

What division was the catch weight in gumby, was it within the SMW division, ah, it was, can you label it in the JMW division, NO, can you label it in the MW division, NO, so if it's not JMW and it's not MW then it must be SMW, there is no catchweight division or canelo weight nuffy

[GGG Gloveking]

What division was the catch weight in gumby, was it within the SMW division, ah, it was, can you label it in the JMW division, NO, can you label it in the MW division, NO, so if it's not JMW and it's not MW then it must be SMW, there is no catchweight division or canelo weight nuffy

We've established the term for catchweight. It's called fake. I guess That applies to much of Canelos career in recent years

[kafkod]

lol, so now you clowns are pulling PED stories out of your ass?

pulling the PED card is even worse than pulling the race card

link me to proof of that, or file that excuse where it came from..... which is the same place those other excuses belong..... back up your ass

http://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-smith-no-longer-vada-testing-no-cause-concern--108188

Stick that up your ass, weasel.

[aboutfkntime]

Ok, it's called fake if not at the full weight class limit. So that makes Floyd vs Canelo fake, a while lot of Pac fights fake, Canelo and Cotto and Khan was fake. And a hypothetical offer of 155 would be fake too, right?

How about Brook? It was at the full 160 against a conditioned 160. Is it a genuine MW fight then? And for GGG, is it called fake also, or is there a different term?

we were discussing fighters..... but you have now changed the subject to bouts

fighters: when Canelo was fighting at 155, he was OBVIOUSLY not a genuine middleweight..... because middleweights do not weigh 155, they weigh 160..... an intelligent man, would not use the term middleweight to describe 155lb Canelo

what don't you understand about that ?

bouts: if a fight is not held at the full divisional limit, it is referred to as a catchweight, and there is nothing new about that

imho, they are all fake..... catchweight fights are bullshht

I do not care if I never see another catchweight fight ever

a bout where one fighter has to drop weight (like Chavez, Loma/Rigo, etc) just becomes a circus-show because..... 1) the result will never be definitive.... 2) the bout will never be relevant to divisional supremacy

fk catchweights

same with Canelo at 155..... he was fighting JMW opponents 1lb over the limit, which made little/no difference..... but he should have been more professional, and he should have had more respect for his JMW opponents..... who were not drained in any way, but they may not have benefited from that extra pound as much as he did

why the fk do you clowns need someone to paint you a picture?

you are literally painting by numbers, and still fk'ing it up