Comments Thread For: Golovkin Promoter: Canelo Deal Would Have To Be Finalized Soon

[kafkod]

yep, lets just ignore that fights with a limit of 155 are cw fights used by jmws, mws do their cws above 160... funny how lara has more fights than canelo at 155 or above, but when someone asks for ggg-lara the narrative becomes that lara isnt a mw who hasnt done **** at mw... it wouldnt matter anyways, abel sanchez him self rejected that fight for a good reason...

That's a bad comparison.

Lara has never fought at the sanctioned weight limit of 160lbs and he has never held a title in the middleweight division, or been ranked as a MW by any ranking organisation.

Canelo has done all three.

[kafkod]

his training/preparation at 155 was identical to his training at 154, for Smith..... and you are a fool to think otherwise..... but at 160, Canelo will be stronger, and his preparation will be completely different..... boxing has NOTHING to do with rehydration weight you silly casual, the total amount of functional muscle-mass and conditioning that you will take into a fight is determined at the official weighin..... you are an absolute simpleton if you did not think that 5lbs would make a difference to Canelo.....

For a guy who claims to be a long term boxing fan, and an ex boxer, your ignorance of basic physiology is astonishing!

Of course rehydration weight matters!

Functional muscle mass is over 70% water!

A boxer who dries out to make weight has dehydrated his muscles and depleted them of the water they need to function properly.

A properly reyhydrated boxer has replaced the water his muscles and organs lost during the dry out process and restored them to full functionality.

That's why a fully rehydrated boxer can enter the ring weighing 20lbs more than he did at the weigh in and looking like this:





And not like this:

[aboutfkntime]

I see you still can't answer a simple question, yes or no. Who are you referring to that started a post with techniqually. You didn't answer my question about tank Davis, should he have been allowed to defend the title, he was only 2 pounds over, according to you, he isn't a genuine lightweight just like canelo wasn't a genuine MW being 1 pound over, so in your opinion, how many pounds over a divisional weight can a fighter be before YOU consider him genuine gimp

of course not, don't be so ******

what the *** does a champion failing to make weight have to do with Canelo's decision to fight 1lb over the limit in a non-title fight?

you are getting desperate, and pulling dumb stuff out of your ass

learn the sport

if you think that Cotto was a middleweight, then you are a fool

[aboutfkntime]

In a title fight anything above 154, all the way up to 160, is MW.

Above 154 and up to 160 is the MW division.

155 is above 154, so it's in the MW division.

That's so simple to understand. There are only 2 reasons I can think of for you to keep insisting that Canelo never fought at MW till last Sept.

1. You are cynically trolling.

2. You suffer from some kind of autistic disorder, and can't free your mind from it's preoccupation with 155 being a "catchweight."

If so, focus on this .. a catchweight is not a weight division. A catchweight an ad hoc arrangement between 2 fighters, not a divisional weight limit.

155 is an ad hoc catchweight within the middleweight division. The official sanctioned weight limit for every MW title fight is 160lbs.

FACT: if you think that Cotto was a genuine middleweight, then you are a fool


FACT: if you think that a fighter who has never weighed more than 155 is a genuine middleweight, then you are a fool's fool..... foolio


FACT: (and you really need to learn this one kid) a genuine middleweight prepares to weigh 160, in order to fight a middleweight opponent..... Canelo had never done that before Golovkin.....

there is no " technically " in boxing, you silly kid


you goofball casual-fans need to put down your calculators, get off your fat ass, and actually learn the sport..... you talk like boxing is a video-game, is that why you were so disrespectful to bread?


if you were not aware that 155 Canelo would be better/stronger at 160, then you are a fkn idiot..... and if you were aware of that fact, then you simply cannot refer to 155 Canelo as a genuine middleweight..... that point is sooooo obvious


" middleweight is 160.... this is boxing " ~ Gennady Golovkin


you have made an art-form out of defending the most ******ed things..... well done muppet lol

[aboutfkntime]

That's a completely false comparison.

Lara has never fought at the sanctioned weight limit of 160lbs and he has never held a title in the middleweight division, or been ranked as a MW by any ranking organisation.

Canelo has done all three.

he fought 153lb Cotto, then AMIR KHAN, you fkn scrubber


FACT: (and you really need to learn this one kid) a genuine middleweight prepares to weigh 160, in order to fight a middleweight opponent..... Canelo had never done that before Golovkin.....


you are the same excuse-making muppet you were YEARS ago

[aboutfkntime]

For a guy who claims to be a long term boxing fan, and an ex boxer, your ignorance of basic physiology is astonishing!

Of course rehydration weight matters!

Functional muscle mass is over 70% water!

A boxer who dries out to make weight has dehydrated his muscles and depleted them of the water they need to function properly.

A properly reyhydrated boxer has replaced the water his muscles and organs lost during the dry out process and restored them to full functionality.

That's why a fully rehydrated boxer can enter the ring weighing 20lbs more than he did at the weigh in and looking like this:





And not like this:

NOBODY mentioned FAILING to rehydrate

I was referring to walk-around/rehydrated weight

Jeremy Clarkson lol

you are a spinner of bullshht kafkod

[Shape up]

of course not, don't be so ******

what the *** does a champion failing to make weight have to do with Canelo's decision to fight 1lb over the limit in a non-title fight?

you are getting desperate, and pulling dumb stuff out of your ass

learn the sport

if you think that Cotto was a middleweight, then you are a fool

I will make this simple for you ******, if canelo weighs in at 155 he is a MW, 156 he is a MW, 157 he is a MW, 158 he is a MW, 159 he is a MW, 160 he is a MW, if you think that isn't right then maybe you should contact the ABC

[aboutfkntime]

I will make this simple for you ******, if canelo weighs in at 155 he is a MW, 156 he is a MW, 157 he is a MW, 158 he is a MW, 159 he is a MW, 160 he is a MW, if you think that isn't right then maybe you should contact the ABC

you are an idiot fanboy !

from the other thread.....

bro, I will not spend too much time in this thread, because this subject is also being "discussed" on two other threads

the subject..... is utter ******ity, and is only being pushed by a handful of try-hard Golovkin fanboys..... Shape Up, kafkod, and a few others

this is a breakdown of the ENTIRE argument.....



The Cause:
the failed negotiations between Canelo/Golovkin in 2016

1) Golovkin ran around for FIVE YEARS saying that he can beat "anyone from 154-168", he even specifically promised to fight Canelo at 154.....

Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....

http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-aims-high-and-low-would-fight-ward-at-168-and-canelo-at-154/15398?var=no

2) Canelo..... being an entitled diva who was prepared to exploit his position, and his understanding of the sport..... demanded that fight at 155

3) Golovkin..... being full-of-shht, and not wanting to have his hype-train derailed, totally refused..... he offered Rosado/Brook a catchweight, but totally refused to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... bizarrely, Golovkin then stated that he is willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody will step up

4) Golovkin's idiot fanbase, in their wisdom..... rather than calling out Golovkin for his lies, inconsistencies, and bizarre refusal to negotiate on weight with superstars despite the fact that he was willing to negotiate on weight with no-hopers..... decided to re-label 155 Canelo as a middleweight, in an effort to remove the egg from both of Golovkin's face's



The killer:
when Canelo fought Liam Smith at 154 to win the WBO JMW title, that "Canelo is a middleweight" nonsense should have stopped there and then..... anyone with half-a-brain should have realized that referring to Canelo as a middleweight was try-hard fanboy rubbish..... but, some did not



The bottom line:

FACT: anyone who thinks that Cotto was a genuine middleweight..... is "special"

FACT: anyone who refers to a fighter who has never weighed more than 155, as a genuine middleweight..... is even more "special"

the Golovkin krewe just looooove calling me a hater, which is just another excuse-making label, like "middleweight" was..... but they really have tagged/bagged themselves by peddling that rubbish

can you say..... dumbass casual fan ? lol



FACT: a genuine middleweight does TWO things..... he prepares to weigh-in at 160, in order to fight a middleweight opponent.....

well, Canelo had never done either of those things until he fought Golovkin..... which makes casual fans as dumb as a rock

[aboutfkntime]

the (casual-fan) elephant in the room.....

..........

FACT: a genuine middleweight does TWO things..... he prepares to weigh-in at 160, in order to fight a middleweight opponent.....

well, Canelo had never done either of those things until he fought Golovkin..... which makes casual fans as dumb as a rock

[kafkod]

FACT: if you think that Cotto was a genuine middleweight, then you are a fool


FACT: if you think that a fighter who has never weighed more than 155 is a genuine middleweight, then you are a fool's fool..... foolio


FACT: (and you really need to learn this one kid) a genuine middleweight prepares to weigh 160, in order to fight a middleweight opponent..... Canelo had never done that before Golovkin.....

there is no " technically " in boxing, you silly kid


you goofball casual-fans need to put down your calculators, get off your fat ass, and actually learn the sport..... you talk like boxing is a video-game, is that why you were so disrespectful to bread?


if you were not aware that 155 Canelo would be better/stronger at 160, then you are a fkn idiot..... and if you were aware of that fact, then you simply cannot refer to 155 Canelo as a genuine middleweight..... that point is sooooo obvious


" middleweight is 160.... this is boxing " ~ Gennady Golovkin


you have made an art-form out of defending the most ******ed things..... well done muppet lol

We are talking about Canelo, not Cotto. but as you brought him into it, consider this:

Cotto would have been no stronger/fitter after weighing in at 160, because he would have come in under 155, even without the catchweight.

Canelo most definitely did benifit from the extra 5lbs .. because unlike Cotto, Canelo is a natural MW who is stronger/fitter at 160 than he was at 154 or 155.

Now ask yourself this question .... how many times would Canelo need to weigh in at 160 in order to benifit from those extra 5lbs?

If you are honest, you will admit that he got the benifit immediately, the first time he did it, and all your attempts to "prove" that the GGG fight was Canelo's first in the MW division have been a pointless wastefkntime.