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  • #21
    Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
    umm...not sure if you realize this....but someone posted a video the other day...and this guy was from the UK and a joshua fan...saying the fight has to be in the US

    the video was of richard schaefer explaining how the money works....a UK ppv is 1/3-1/4 the price of a US ppv.....so basically 1 million buys in the UK is equal to 300k buys in the US......so the fight is going to be in the US and wilder is the only heavyweight that can bring a US ppv audience to the table.....thus he is def worth at least 40/50 percent of the split......very simple when u think about it....
    This fight would likely flop on us ppv as wilder isn’t a big enough draw. You can point at ratings but look how good ggg’s were it still didn’t stop the Lemieux fight from flopping on ppv. Andre ward and Kovalev was a fight beteeen two of the top 5 p4p fighters at the time and that still managed to flop on ppv. This fight would probably do the same until wilder builds his name up.

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    • #22
      At the end of the day the people/posters that understand their boxing knew this fight doesn’t happen next from day 1, we had the ones that were crying after Wilder KO bermane like “They don’t want the fight mang” like us British posters are somehow somewhat scared about the fight happening, when in reality we all knew fights doesn’t just happen like that, now we are where we said or knew this fight would be, the only issue I have now is Fury is back and his coming back can/would push this fight back even further if Sky/Hearn have their way.

      This is why I hope Wilder name gets built up to the point where the demand for this fight would be global, right now this fight only happens in the UK. The fact that Wilder has never sold any sort of PPV on his own makes the fight non economical in the American market.

      This is why Wilder team are now trying their hardest to push his name in America, if they can do a 9 to 12 months push them sky/Hearn would be laughing all the way to the bank on this one. But right now it’s meh from this side. No sensible business personal would out this fight on in America right now.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Ray* View Post
        At the end of the day the people/posters that understand their boxing knew this fight doesn’t happen next from day 1, we had the ones that were crying after Wilder KO bermane like “They don’t want the fight mang” like us British posters are somehow somewhat scared about the fight happening, when in reality we all knew fights doesn’t just happen like that, now we are where we said or knew this fight would be, the only issue I have now is Fury is back and his coming back can/would push this fight back even further if Sky/Hearn have their way.

        This is why I hope Wilder name gets built up to the point where the demand for this fight would be global, right now this fight only happens in the UK. The fact that Wilder has never sold any sort of PPV on his own makes the fight non economical in the American market.

        This is why Wilder team are now trying their hardest to push his name in America, if they can do a 9 to 12 months push them sky/Hearn would be laughing all the way to the bank on this one. But right now it’s meh from this side. No sensible business personal would out this fight on in America right now.
        Fury wont be ready until 2019 .

        Hearn WANTS Wilder in 2018 .


        Neither fight stops one or the other . Only Wilder himself can stop this fight from happening in the U.K which IS a possibility but highly unlikely bc Joshua would have options with Fury in 2019.
        Last edited by juggernaut666; 12-25-2017, 07:13 AM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
          the money will not "generate more" at wembley.....as someone already mentioned....canelo/chavez did better at the gate than AJs last couple of fights......ticket prices and ppv prices in the UK are not equal to what they are in the US.......even if you sell 90k tickets in the UK its not the same as 18-20k in the US

          hearn and company will need to come to terms with this...this is why they are having a hard time actually wanting the fight....its much easier for them to stay over there and not face a threat of wilder

          a fight in the US lands them both UK and US ppv money...which is much better for both guys

          i guess you arent reading and comprehending too well huh? what richard explained is in the US you only need to do 1/3 of the buys to equal the money that you would get if you do a million in the UK.....so lets explain this for you in slow motion....1k UK ppvs=300k US ppvs

          now how many fights in the UK do you see getting put on US ppv? basically none...so you do fight in the US you get UK and US ppv money....

          you follow yet or are you drunk/******?
          You're literally too ****** to reply too , the only thing i'll say is that would only work in a rematch unless Wilder gets blown out in 2/3 Rnds the fight is not economical enough for a U.S fight if BOTH guys want the maximum higher pay ..basic math here...lol
          Last edited by juggernaut666; 12-25-2017, 06:48 AM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
            Calling somebody an idiot is very easy. Let's see if your post ends up proving your case though . . .




            Our position was that it would be a poor business decision to do the fight next. So you call us idiots, but then your position ends up being that it would be a poor business decision to do the fight next.

            Is there something wrong with you? We all agree (and Hearn & Haymon agree as well) that the smart business decision is to continue to build up the fight and not do it next. Is your life that miserable that you even lash out at the people you agree with?

            Feel better man. Merry Christmas.
            Well anyone who thinks this fight is a good idea to happen next is an idiot bc then it takes place outside the U.K , so yes that makes posters on here an idiot . No other way to put it and your frequently proven to be one on here .

            You didnt agree with anything you played your little trumpet on here as usual and insinuated Joshua is running from the fight bc Wilder wants the fight next (sure he does ) , so who is the idiot? Not me .

            The fight COULDNT happen next UNLESS it took place outside the U.K .....is this really hard to understand . Its NOT bc Hearn doesn't want the fight next .

            I feel just fine im not worried about it you pest ...merry Xmas and go F yourself !
            Last edited by juggernaut666; 12-25-2017, 07:09 AM.

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            • #26
              let Wilder fight King Kong on ppv next and lets see

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              • #27
                Well yeah Parker's team actually have a sense of how negotiations work. Parker wouldn't be getting the fight if he too said "I wan't 50-50 or NO FIGHT".

                It's not rocket science but to a guy as dumb as Wilder it probably is.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by chocolatebomber View Post
                  let Wilder fight King Kong on ppv next and lets see
                  That would be a step in the right direction regardless who Wilder fights but knuckle head Dibella probably will prevent that and wonder why Wilder cant generate the $$$$ in the U.S .

                  Even poor ratings would at least get his name out there in at least trying to look like a big deal and at least help any discussion about a U.S PPV fight with Joshua .

                  How anyone thinks a U.S fight will draw more money when one guy has never fought in the states and the other never did PPV is beyond ******, no matter how you crunch numbers .

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                    Not sure if you realise this but Hearn WANTS the fight at Wembley where the money will actually generate more .

                    Wilder has never even done ONE ppv event ever anywhere .

                    Richard needs to take the needle out of his arm if he thinks Wilder can generate remotley the views Joshua does in the U.K .......and then the issue of Wilder fantasy land demands all together !
                    You sure talk a lot for a guy that is pretty ignorant of the financials.

                    Las Vegas casinos put up a higher site fee than anybody else. That's why most big fights end up there and not somewhere like the Dallas Cowboys stadium, which holds more people than Wembley.

                    Then there is the higher ticket and PPV prices in the U.S. as others have already tried to explain and get through your thick head.

                    If Hearn wants to generate the most money for this fight then it has to be in Vegas with a joint pay per view in America and the UK.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                      You sure talk a lot for a guy that is pretty ignorant of the financials.

                      Las Vegas casinos put up a higher site fee than anybody else. That's why most big fights end up there and not somewhere like the Dallas Cowboys stadium, which holds more people than Wembley.

                      Then there is the higher ticket and PPV prices in the U.S. as others have already tried to explain and get through your thick head.

                      If Hearn wants to generate the most money for this fight then it has to be in Vegas with a joint pay per view in America and the UK.
                      Most of the money comes from ppv buys whether it's in Vegas or not...

                      It'd have to be placed on a time slot that suits travel requirements of fans and the US PPV buy market if held in vegas so mid evening your end.. which means 3am maybe later for us in the UK.

                      Why the **** would Hearn do that when neither Joshua nor wilder would sell big ppv numbers to the US market and it would seriously damage the UK ppv market which would undoubtedly be more buys than you lot???

                      It'd cause maybe a 30% drop in ppv sales because of the non-uk friendly time slot...

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