Canelo vs GGG Punch Stats (MORE ACCURATE THAN COMPUBOX)

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  • mcdonalds
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    #31
    Originally posted by kafkod
    In your own punch stats you have GGG outscoring Canelo in 7 out of 12 rounds, with 1 round even. Then you say you think Canelo won it 115-113.

    How the heck does that make sense, when there were no knockdowns or points deducted?
    When did I say i scored the fight based on who landed the most punches in this thread?????

    This isn't amateur boxing
    Last edited by mcdonalds; 12-25-2017, 02:26 PM.

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    • mcdonalds
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      #32
      Originally posted by stealthradon
      Odd. I remember when I used slow-motion to clearly show Canelo's punches not landing, it was deemed wrong by the very same who are now praising the usage.
      A good amount of his punches didn't land and I didn't count those. GGG missed way more

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      • mcdonalds
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        #33
        Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
        Boxstat did it from the slo-mo ages ago, man.

        https://boxstat.co/bout/2902828/saul...nnady-golovkin
        No, **** them

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        • kafkod
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          #34
          Originally posted by mcdonalds
          When did I score the fight in this thread?????
          You didn't actually score it, but somebody said he scored it 115 - 113 Canelo, and you said you agreed with that score.

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          • Citizen Koba
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            #35
            Originally posted by mcdonalds
            No, **** them
            You sound unimpressed, man. I can't guarantee their accuracy, but the guy who started it used to post on here every now and then and that **** came across as a labour of love... or perhaps an obsession. Either way I'm not quite sure of their methodology... their numbers always seem a little higher than most and I suspect they count any landed punch, even glancing or blocked blows without attempting to make the subjective judgement over which ones should count. Used to be they'd do round by round breakdowns of exactly when the punches landed too, so you could check for yourself, but (perhaps due to time constraints) they seem to have dropped that feature. Shame, but hey, who am I to complain,- I think they run that **** on a shoestring. Still... the more stats you've got the better in my world... so, yeah, thanks for the good work, man.

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            • mcdonalds
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              #36
              Originally posted by kafkod
              You didn't actually score it, but somebody said he scored it 115 - 113 Canelo, and you said you agreed with that score.
              It isn't right just to score rounds automatically to the person with the most landed punches. Especially when an overwhelming majority of the landed punches were jabs.

              The rounds I gave to canelo are rounds he landed more power punches, didnt heavily get outlanded and had the cleaner effective shots. That's how I scored it 115-113 for canelo.
              Last edited by mcdonalds; 12-25-2017, 02:36 PM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                You sound unimpressed, man. I can't guarantee their accuracy, but the guy who started it used to post on here every now and then and that **** came across as a labour of love... or perhaps an obsession. Either way I'm not quite sure of their methodology... their numbers always seem a little higher than most and I suspect they count any landed punch, even glancing or blocked blows without attempting to make the subjective judgement over which ones should count. Used to be they'd do round by round breakdowns of exactly when the punches landed too, so you could check for yourself, but (perhaps due to time constraints) they seem to have dropped that feature. Shame, but hey, who am I to complain,- I think they run that **** on a shoestring. Still... the more stats you've got the better in my world... so, yeah, thanks for the good work, man.
                lol i was joking , i think more people should record punch stats in slow motion for better accuracy due to compubox having its flaws. Their website was confusing to read though

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                • Citizen Koba
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by mcdonalds
                  No, **** them

                  Ah yeah, that's the one I was looking for... would be interesting to compare how it stacks up with your numbers, but it ain't like this is an exact science - everyone has their own idea of what should count as a landed punch.

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                  • TheFrog
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by mcdonalds
                    When did I say i scored the fight based on who landed the most punches in this thread?????

                    This isn't amateur boxing
                    THANK YOU!!! While I personally disagree with you and feel that Golovkin won, I respect this comment so much! So many people think that you just tally up punch totals and there you go (because it's "the sweet science"). You literally have to hold some peoples hand and walk them through the history of boxing, the Marquess of Queensberry and how/why boxing rules evolved to be how they are today before they get it.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by mcdonalds
                      It isn't right just to score rounds automatically to the person with the most landed punches. Especially when an overwhelming majority of the landed punches were jabs.

                      The rounds I gave to canelo are rounds he landed more power punches, didnt heavily get outlanded and had the cleaner effective shots. That's how I scored it 115-113 for canelo.
                      I know you are following the compubox format, but imo, dividing punches into "power punches" and "jabs" is very misleading. The assumption it puts into peoples minds is that any punch which isn't a jab is more powerfull than a jab, and should count for more when adding up the totals.

                      To me, that's a false assumption, and compubox should get rid of it. A clean punch is a clean punch, whether it's a jab, a hook, or whatever. And unless a particular punch visibly hurts or shakes an opponent they should all count equally when scoring a round.

                      That's the only way to be trully objective when scoring fights.

                      Neither man was hurt or shaken, but Canelo was constantly retreating, which is not his usual style of fighting. So to me, it looked like GGG was controlling the fight more with his jab than Canelo was with his pot shots and flurries.
                      Last edited by kafkod; 12-25-2017, 03:43 PM.

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