Who was Jeff Lacy's best win?

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  • soul_survivor
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    #31
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    And why do the Brits hold him in such high regard?
    Let me translate this question - "Lacy was rubbish and Calzaghe shouldn't get credit for beating him."

    Reality is Lacy was much more highly regarded in the US back then than he was here. In a division where Calzaghe had beaten pretty much everyone except Kessler, Lacy was the next best thing. PLus he had genuine KO power.

    Calzaghe didnt just beat him, he humiliated him. To retroactively act like Lacy was a nobody is ******.

    It's not like he got credit for beating Gatti...

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    • future hendrixx
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      #32
      lacy was ruined that night. not just beat. he was RUINED. so if your excuse for downplaying that win from joe is to say lacy didn't turn out to be nothing special. give joe credit for that. lacys career got ended that night. the trainer left him in taking a beating with the hope lacy would connect a KO blow that never came. horrible gamble. you can still google the predictions and count on one hand those who picked calzaghe. even "experts" from the UK had lacy winning by demolition.

      i remember how one writer described lacy "mike tyson power with mayweather speed". calzaghe was seen as washed up. he was coming in with like 18 title defenses and heavily criticized for never fighting in America. he was called a "slapper". i was one of those that had to eat my words also. theres no need in playing ****** now. that was hands down joes best performance and lacys career was finished.

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      • Sp0rty Cr@ig
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        #33
        They hail him as a hypejob, not a great fighter.

        Similar to Broner before Maidana beat him. Broner was seen as the next big thing before that. Now 3 losses later he is regarded as a B fighter / gatekeeper

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #34
          Originally posted by future hendrixx
          lacy was ruined that night. not just beat. he was RUINED. so if your excuse for downplaying that win from joe is to say lacy didn't turn out to be nothing special. give joe credit for that. lacys career got ended that night. the trainer left him in taking a beating with the hope lacy would connect a KO blow that never came. horrible gamble. you can still google the predictions and count on one hand those who picked calzaghe. even "experts" from the UK had lacy winning by demolition.

          i remember how one writer described lacy "mike tyson power with mayweather speed". calzaghe was seen as washed up. he was coming in with like 18 title defenses and heavily criticized for never fighting in America. he was called a "slapper". i was one of those that had to eat my words also. theres no need in playing ****** now. that was hands down joes best performance and lacys career was finished.
          Yet the odds were basically split down the middle?

          We are talking about a guy who barely beat a shot Omar Sheika and that was literally the only fringe contender he fought.

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          • ShoulderRoll
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            #35
            Originally posted by soul_survivor
            Let me translate this question - "Lacy was rubbish and Calzaghe shouldn't get credit for beating him."

            Reality is Lacy was much more highly regarded in the US back then than he was here. In a division where Calzaghe had beaten pretty much everyone except Kessler, Lacy was the next best thing. PLus he had genuine KO power.

            Calzaghe didnt just beat him, he humiliated him. To retroactively act like Lacy was a nobody is ******.

            It's not like he got credit for beating Gatti...
            Gatti is in the Hall of Fame somehow.

            You reckon that Jeff Lacy will ever make it in?

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            • redmish
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              #36
              Originally posted by Switch Hitter93
              Im a brit unfortunately but I don't care for lacy but the majority of sheeple over here would hold lacy in high esteem purely because calzaghe beat him which for some reason I can't comprehend propels lacy to goat opponent level for calzaghe/some brit fans not all though including myself.

              Lacy was unproven and calslappy ovverrated and protected. Struggled to win and got dropped by a 43 year old hopkins that says it all
              Why are you unfortunate to be a brit? Or are you just trying to get some american fans on here? Show some patriotism for God's sake.

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              • Madison Boxing
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                #37
                To all the ******s crying about 'Who's he beat' well why the **** did u hype him so much in the first place? And why do you continue to hype similar fighters to this day? Someone could beat up Crawford and you could legitimately ask 'Who's he beat' but you guys have made him p4p number 1. If your gonna hype fighters you havr to give the guy who beats him credit. When someone ices the Charlo sisters who you all love so much I dont want to hear you all crying like you are in this thread

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                • future hendrixx
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Yet the odds were basically split down the middle?

                  We are talking about a guy who barely beat a shot Omar Sheika and that was literally the only fringe contender he fought.
                  the writers over at doghouse predictions: only 1 for joe

                  the writers over at thesweetscience predictions: only 1 for joe

                  the boxingscene predictions: 6 for joe

                  and none of those who picked joe were even confident in their picks. it was all mostly close decisions. and the atmosphere with fans back then was that joe will get obliterated..you can google all these predictions since you cant post links on here.

                  its too easy to change the narrative after so many years. calling lacy a joke and clowing his resume.

                  if crawford gets beat at 147 i can also trash him saying "who he beat?".. if loma destroys mikey i can ask who mikey beat. you can do this to alot of fighters. and i keep going back not just to joe winning but HOW he won. you call lacy a joke because he didn't turn out to be special. and what im saying is thats because he took a career ending beating that night.

                  around 2009 mosley vs berto was being cooked up. berto was the next great thing. he was destined to take over. sadly he pulled out due to the earthquake but lets say the fight took place and mosley had destroyed him. you can easily say "who berto beat" to not give shane credit.

                  its a pathetic thing to do. the lacy victory solidified calzaghe as the best smw in the world. period.

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                  • PsychoPat
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by redmish
                    Why are you unfortunate to be a brit? Or are you just trying to get some american fans on here? Show some patriotism for God's sake.
                    We have a bad rep in most parts of the world. have an outdated fit for nothing monarchy. Angela murkel in collaboration with Theresa may is further ***ing things up for us. My views irrelevant really. I'm not trying to get fans on here although I'm a part time member of team usa. The thread by legendary hater.

                    And patriotism is an overrated concept I back myself and my family. What part of this patriotic society will have my back when I need most. None its called natural selection dog eat dog every man for them self. we're defined by what tax bracket we are in not by being a loyal patriot to a country that just about manages to sustain itself.

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                    • Enzo Calzaghe
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
                      He was a hypejob from the get go kinda like Lucian Bute. He didnt beat anybody good in particular but then he looked good in beating them so hype train was on.

                      I dont give calzaghe too much credit. Calzaghe slaps like a girl. *** calzaghe
                      Mate, facking say that to Joe's facking face in facking Newbridge you facking wankah! Joe was the facking best super facking middle facking weight of all facking time! Facking Jones and facking 'opkins were facking afraid to fight Joe in 'is facking prime!

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