Comments Thread For: Thurman: Joshua is Not Yet Ready For Wilder, Needs More Time

[sammybee]

Wilder should fight Fury instead if Joshua needs time.
Fury needs just two comeback fights to be ready for Wilder.
Fury wouldn't mind to travel to USA for that showdown.

[theface07]

Joshua will never be ready for Wilder.

Don't be ridiculous. Either guy could get knocked out cold in the first round. You have no idea what will happen, that's just blind patriotism. Joshua has already gone to the trenches and came out victorious against a better batch of opponents. Wilder has only proved so far he has a big punch and can knock out tailor made bums. He's no world beater yet. He has a lot more to prove than Joshua. Try being objective. Being a fan of exciting, unpredictable match ups of undefeated fighters facing each other, it would be a great match up to see and great for boxing regardless of who comes out on top.

[theface07]

I don`t see Spence beating any top guy at 154. For example, Hurd is huge, he would kill him.

Hogwash. Spence is a big welterweight and a top level one at that. Why do you think he's always clamoring for Thurman and the other top level WWs to fight? Because he knows he beats them. Hurd comes straight forward and is slow on his feet. Spence plants his feet and walks down his opponents as well but is a sharper puncher. I would put money on Spence against Hurd who's best win is against a game but past his prime Trout in a fight where Trout was able to land some solid shots but didn't have enough power to hurt Hurd. Spence would do major damage if he were to land clean shots.

[theface07]

You're lying. Nobody killed the fight. Hearn didn't want to do the fight next. Hearn has the A-side, so he gets to make the rules. The fight will happen later in 2018 when Hearn wants it to happen.




You're lying. Wilder's highest ranked win is higher than Joshua's.

Highest ranked? You're joking right? Are you talking about Stiverne? Do you have some kind of connection to the governing bodies or something? Anyone with half a brain knows that Stiverne only got his mandatory ranking because the WBC is corrupt as hell and greasy old Don King pulled his final scam in getting a rematch for his totally washed up, inactive fighter. If you think Wilder's win against the chubby punching bag Stiverne is better than Joshua's win against Klitschko because the governing body made Stiverne mandatory, you sir are totally delusional or a mindless follower of whatever the governing bodies dictate. Try being objective and seeing wins for what they are, not what the bogus rankings suggest.

[Kezzer]

You're lying. Check the WBC rankings.

Who is in top 10 then? I did look earlier and couldn’t see anyone.

For clarity I based those rankings on today, so it’s quite possible wilder did fight some top10 In the past and they have subsequently fallen e.g stiverne

[Jkp]

Just looking at stats.

Joshua's first real fight was may 2015 against Johnson. He stopped him in 2 rounds (which considering he's never been stopped including fights against vitali, pulev, fury, etc) was no mean feat. He then fought 4 unbeaten men in a row, including whyte, Martin and breazeale. Followed up by Molina (who he destroyed without being wobbled like Wilder) before the big fight against klitschko and takam. All the above my knockout and quite clear the increased level of opponent overtime.

Taking above into account he has fought 2 of top 10 by the ring and boxrec. Of the WBC top 10 he has fought 4, WBA 1, IBF 4, WBO 3.

Wilder on the other hand. He started his career 5 years ahead of Joshua but first meaningful fight was probably Harrison about the same time Joshua was starting up, it was Harrison's last fight and he already had six losses by then. A couple of easy fights followed , then took out Malik Scott, again some easy fights then Stiverne (who at the time was a ok fighter) who he beat by decision. Struggled past Molina next fight followed by several easy fights again with a couple domestic level ones thrown in. His last fight was against the out of shape stiverne. None of his opponents are in the ranking list of either the ring or boxrec. He also has fought no one in he top ten of either WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF.

Judge for yourself who you think is most likely to be ready?

Here is a more acurate look at AJ's pathetic record.

[Kezzer]

Here is a more acurate look at AJ's pathetic record.

Who came up with those rankings? First ten or fifteen ok, but others don’t make sense and others convinently left off. As my first post suggested I think the key indicator on his part is clear progression upwards in difficulty. If you look at a rolling ‘3’ fights he consistently gets harder opposition to present day. I expect that to continue in 2018.

[Jkp]

Who came up with those rankings? First ten or fifteen ok, but others don’t make sense and others convinently left off. As my first post suggested I think the key indicator on his part is clear progression upwards in difficulty. If you look at a rolling ‘3’ fights he consistently gets harder opposition to present day. I expect that to continue in 2018.

More silly talk. The Molina fight was one of the worst mismatches in history. Should of been ruled a no contest due to lack of effort from Molina. He didn't even bother moving to the centre of the ring for the opening bell. How is that clear progression?

Amazing how you can have such skewed view of your god aj.

[Jkp]

Highest ranked? You're joking right? Are you talking about Stiverne? Do you have some kind of connection to the governing bodies or something? Anyone with half a brain knows that Stiverne only got his mandatory ranking because the WBC is corrupt as hell and greasy old Don King pulled his final scam in getting a rematch for his totally washed up, inactive fighter. If you think Wilder's win against the chubby punching bag Stiverne is better than Joshua's win against Klitschko because the governing body made Stiverne mandatory, you sir are totally delusional or a mindless follower of whatever the governing bodies dictate. Try being objective and seeing wins for what they are, not what the bogus rankings suggest.

Parkers win over ex champ frans Botha is as good as AJs win over klitchko. Both were beaten ex champs, both been in with big names, both were old and past there prime.

[Ham Porter]

The idea of Joshua being ready or not ready for Wilder is hilarious. Wilder is the one taking the astronomical step up in class here, not Joshua. It just highlights how utterly pathetic Wilder's record actually is.