Comments Thread For: Thurman: Joshua is Not Yet Ready For Wilder, Needs More Time

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Who is in top 10 then? I did look earlier and couldn’t see anyone.

For clarity I based those rankings on today, so it’s quite possible wilder did fight some top10 In the past and they have subsequently fallen e.g stiverne

We know what you meant. Because if you're counting top 10 when he fought them, he's faced countless top 10 contenders. He brutally knocks them out and they leave the top 10.

But the reason you're still lying is because Duhaupas is #6 in the current WBC ratings.

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Highest ranked? You're joking right? Are you talking about Stiverne?

Stiverne was #2 or #3 in pretty much every major independent world ranking system when Wilder beat him for the title. AJ has never faced anybody ranked that high. Klitschko was inactive for so long after losing in a dreadful performance that he was removed from many rankings. So if we're removing all bias and just looking at the facts, Wilder is the only one that has faced a top prime fighter. AJ has not.

That's not a criticism of AJ. He's a great fighter and would likely be favored over Wilder. However, Wilder's resume is often unfairly criticized and we shouldn't forget that between the two of them, Wilder is actually the one with the higher ranking win.

Do you have some kind of connection to the governing bodies or something?

This account is operated by three previous boxingscene posters. One of us has ties to the WBC, one to the WBA and one to the IBF. None of us currently work for any sanctioning body, but still stay in touch with those in charge.

Anyone with half a brain knows that Stiverne only got his mandatory ranking because the WBC is corrupt

Not true. Stiverne was the champion. He fell in the rankings after losing the title. Those in front of him lost or left for other organizations. So before long, Stiverne had risen from attrition. No corruption needed. Stiverne agreed to fight Povetkin in an eliminator to determine a new mandatory challenger. Povetkin cheated. Again. So Stiverne lucked out and got a title shot.

[sportbuddha]

Parkers win over ex champ frans Botha is as good as AJs win over klitchko. Both were beaten ex champs, both been in with big names, both were old and part there prime.

Comparing Wlad and Botha...LOL that’s one of the funniest things I’ve seen on this forum ever

[mathed]

AJ thinks he's ready, why are so many people trying to add time to what should be happening in a few months? It's inevitable, AJ will put Wilder out cold, let's just get it over with.

[mathed]

Sure, Here is something more official...

1,000,000 points that AJ wins if the fight happens.

[Jkp]

Who came up with those rankings? First ten or fifteen ok, but others don’t make sense and others convinently left off. As my first post suggested I think the key indicator on his part is clear progression upwards in difficulty. If you look at a rolling ‘3’ fights he consistently gets harder opposition to present day. I expect that to continue in 2018.

Lol.. they don't make sense to you because you are blinded by hype and can't process facts that don't match the hype around aj.

[BrometheusBob.]

Have I stepped into an alternate universe where Wilder KO'd Klitschko and AJ is the green one?

[BrometheusBob.]

Wilder should fight Fury instead if Joshua needs time.
Fury needs just two comeback fights to be ready for Wilder.
Fury wouldn't mind to travel to USA for that showdown.

Actually... I don't dislike that idea

Wilder-Fury winner vs AJ-Parker winner

[PunchyPotorff]

Thurmos needs to either up his meds or drop down a level... cuz right now his thinker isn't working so well. Joshua has the better record, the better mindset in the ring, and has equal power to Wilder. Who has a weaker chin? At this point, I'd say it's a tossup. I don't happen to think Wilder can stand up to Joshua. IMO he'll spazz out and go all stagefright zombie in England. One thing for certain though, Wilder needs to wake up and go for 40% + U.S. pay TV revenue. 50-50 will never happen, yet he'll likely whine his guts out and say that's why the fight didn't happen. Just shut the he!! up and fight the man, DA. You're 2nd tier, Joshua is top shelf. Beat him? Then you can start crowing all you want.

[soul_survivor]

We know what you meant. Because if you're counting top 10 when he fought them, he's faced countless top 10 contenders. He brutally knocks them out and they leave the top 10.

But the reason you're still lying is because Duhaupas is #6 in the current WBC ratings.

Countless? Ok name me 5 world top 10 opponents. Not WBC ranked and absent from other rankings. World top 10, so guys ranked in the top 10 by all 4 organisations and by The Ring.

I'll be waiting.