Ok, what is P4P based on? Like seriously.

[SthPaw]

Skill set and ability, irrespective of height/weight and any other factor. Accomplishments play a part, but by and large I go off skill/style/ability.

Boil two men down to their skill set, who is the better fighter?

That’s how I see it

[Citizen Koba]

You have guys ranking Crawford number one based off the eye test but he has a weaker resume compared to guys like Loma, Rigo, Thurman, Sadam, Spence, GGG, Mikey, and Canelo. Canelo and GGG both have good resumes and it can be argued that Loma has the better skills and resume than everyone since he just beat another top 04p fighter, yet you have a significant amount of people ranking him below Crawford, GGG, canelo. What about Spence and Thurman? They both have bodies on their resume yet I don't see them ranked as highly as Crawford. Joshua has a name, Loma has a name, Canelo has a name, GGG has a name, but Crawford doesn't have a name. So why is he ranked so highly? So, I am confused, what is P4P based on exactly. And please don't use the ,"everything equal" because I don't know how you quantify that.

It's a big pile of subjective turkey turds, man, and it's based upon whatever the hell you want it to be based on (or need it to be in order to justify your picks). That such a ridiculous concept is taken so seriously by so many is just one more indicator of just how irrational people really are. Treat it as a bit of silly fun and you'll do just fine.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Purely opinion.

No one is wrong.

No one is right either.

[TheCleaner]

Actually, heavyweights usually aren't listed at the top of P4P lists. Not that I agree with that.

Anyway, it's a moving up in weight thing. Your best fighters (historically guys like Armstrong, Gans, Robinson, Duran, Floyd) did great things moving up.

This is why you won't see Hagler mentioned in P4P lists, for example. He was insanely good, but never moved up. (And moving up from 160 to 168 is a really huge leap.)

What p4p lists are you looking at that don't have, Willie Pep (accomplishments all at FW), Joe Louis and Ali (HWs)?

[R_Walken]

It's all subjective and Especially now it doesn't mean sh.it because no ones really claimed it without a doubt

But to me the biggest criteria That should hold the most weight should be who you fought and when you fought them

Beating A/B class fighters even if not overly impressive should be what matters most

And then the eye test

It's impressive putting away everyone in easy fashion but when it's all smaller , older guys or fighters that aren't real A/B class talent and just fringe contenders Shouldn't be as meaningful but for some reason it's the biggest barometer for most fans and media when it comes to P4P

[j.razor]

You have guys ranking Crawford number one based off the eye test but he has a weaker resume compared to guys like Loma, Rigo, Thurman, Sadam, Spence, GGG, Mikey, and Canelo. Canelo and GGG both have good resumes and it can be argued that Loma has the better skills and resume than everyone since he just beat another top 04p fighter, yet you have a significant amount of people ranking him below Crawford, GGG, canelo. What about Spence and Thurman? They both have bodies on their resume yet I don't see them ranked as highly as Crawford. Joshua has a name, Loma has a name, Canelo has a name, GGG has a name, but Crawford doesn't have a name. So why is he ranked so highly? So, I am confused, what is P4P based on exactly. And please don't use the ,"everything equal" because I don't know how you quantify that.

What name is that? He lost to Jacobs & Nelo & hasn't fought anyone good before that so lil g don't even belong in the top 5. P4P is based on EVERYTHING! Skill, resume, moving divisions but people only put who they like on the P4P List. Look at espn for example, they always bias....jim lampley, always bias....fans that "Don't Know **** Bout Boxing" are always bias.

And people need to cut that "eye test" **** out! That **** came from skip Bayless & everyone is saying it! yup it spread through espn....do you guys really want to sound like skip Bayless? LOL....GTFOH

[j.razor]

Depends on alot of things but i never like to get into these pfp talks. It is just a subjective list, doesn mean sht.

That's cuz you always putting bums on your list....LOL

[j.razor]

Eye test should be number one cause it’s a matter of how you dominated your opp and how ranked the opp was, I compare it to the BCS college football rankings, best way to define p4p.

Yeah okay skip Bayless.

[Sheldon312]

Yeah okay skip Bayless.

If eye test meant everything, Jones would be p4p 1.

[_Maxi]

Crawford is the midget slayer.