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  • Scipio2009
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    #51
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
    I'm pretty sure in a 10-point must system, there is no such thing as a 10-10 round. Only one fighter can be awarded 10 points in a round. The other must get a score of 9 or less....Oh yeah, and Rigo didn't come close to winning more than 1 of those first 4 rounds.
    There was nothing that happened in the first 4 rounds where anyone could earnestly say "Man, that one fighter sure was putting it on the other fighter".

    If you want to marvel at 5 touch jabs, so be it

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    • club fighter
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      #52
      I gotta be honest OP, it seems like you are just splitting hairs on what was clearly a TKO loss.

      Whether it was just being discouraged or actually an injury that made him not come out for the next round will be a mystery for now (until something surfaces as the truth on Rigo's hand), so you'll just have to live with it.

      From what I saw, he was so outclassed in speed, footwork, body placement, and strategy, that it was inevitable that he would lose to Loma and/or get caught & hurt later in the fight. I got that feeling that it was just a matter of time before he caved in.

      Kinda like Ward/Kov II, after that one head shot you knew Kov was going down, low blows or not. Just a matter of time.

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      • Scipio2009
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        #53
        Originally posted by sunny31
        How can you put a stat in there like that with no context. It makes you come across with a biased perspective. You fail to mention that he actually doubled Rigo's connect % and oulanded him by nearly 4 to 1.

        I already told you that you can't shine on a defensive master like Rigondeaux in that way. Hearns outclassed Wilfred Benitez in a similar way, he wasn't connecting at a high percentage because Benitez was a defensive wizard also, but Hearns didn't allow him to get off at all. Loma did the same, but probably an even more dominant manner in those first 6 rounds.

        He outboxed a great boxer and although Rigo evaded a lot of shots, he was never in a position to counter. If the fight had continued I think it could have got ugly for Rigo.
        Rigo and Loma stalled each other out, and Lomachenko simply being the bigger/fresher man helped him to win off of just activity.

        By round 5, Lomachenko finally registered that he simply needed to keep even more active, which is when the fight started to clearly turn, but why folks want to act as if Lomachenko was laying it in is silly.

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        • Scipio2009
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          #54
          Originally posted by RussTBE
          You dont have to land a high percentage of punches to outclass someone.
          You still have to land though. Missing 85% of your shots is an odd way to "outclass" someone

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            #55
            Originally posted by !! Shawn
            If you watch the 2nd round, you can see him start to get very tentative throwing the left to the body, and then he stopped throwing it all together.

            Its very very common for fighters to injure their hand going to the body if you catch the tip of an elbow.

            Not saying he hurt it enough to warrant quitting, or that it had any meaningful impact on the fight, because it didn't. Loma was going to win that fight no matter what Rigo showed up. But it wouldn't be surprising if he did hurt it.
            You need to watch the fight again, he still throws the left with bad intentions all the way until he throws the towel with even worse intentions. He never stopped throwing the left, Loma just made it pointless to try.

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            • Scipio2009
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              #56
              Originally posted by Mr Subjectivity
              Doesn't matter! Rigondeaux was OUT-LANDED in every round except maybe the first. Ergo, he lost every round except may be the first. Ergo, he was out-classed and schooled in every round except the first. Ergo, he was out-classed and schooled overall.

              Yes, Lomachenko may have landed a few tap punches. However, landing tap punches is better than landing nothing which was the case in many instances in most rounds.

              Plus, Lomachenko landed more effective punches too. Lomachenko landed many jabs, hooks, uppercuts and left hands that were snapping Rigondeaux's head into the direction of where the punch was coming from.

              I'm not making it more than what it was. I'm calling it for what it was. Which was Lomachenko clearly winning at least 5 out of the 6 rounds in the bout. By way of out-landing Rigondeaux and almost totally neutralizing Rigondeaux's offense.
              Lomachenko won the fight, cong****.

              To take a performance where Lomachenko landed 15%, and try to spin that into all of this talk of being the best fighter to ever put on gloves is foolish.

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              • Scipio2009
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                #57
                Originally posted by OnlyBeingHonest
                I half-way agree with this. Loma should be p4p #1. He wasn't outboxinging Rigo bad enough to make him quit either. It was nowhere close to the level he usually does to make guys quit. Rigo pretty much stop throwing after the first round, which makes me believe the injury excuse.

                However my problem is he hasn't revealed anything post fight to collaborate the injury excuse. Also rounds 2 thru 4 definitely weren't even.

                Maybe I DKSAB, but I can't figure out why Rigo wasn't moving around the ring as he did with Donaire. He went toe to toe which makes me think something was wrong. Loma even seemed surprised in the first round that Rigo came to the middle of the ring.

                Something had to be wrong but none if this takes anything from Loma's greatness.
                He's 37 years old, and his style has always been to only move as much as absolutely necessary and not a step more.

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                • buge
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                  I'm pretty sure in a 10-point must system, there is no such thing as a 10-10 round.
                  damn, that is pretty much sig-worthy
                  Last edited by buge; 12-11-2017, 08:52 PM.

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                  • RussB23
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    You still have to land though. Missing 85% of your shots is an odd way to "outclass" someone
                    It is but he handled rigo even though he missed alot. He beat him in every part of the game.There was no doubt who the superior fighter was.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by RussTBE
                      Rigo didnt hurt his hand. Its just a lie to save face, he fought the same way he always fights. Its true, lomachenko didnt really inflict that much damage on him but he was schooling him and toying with him. Nothing rigo tried worked so he tried to turn it into a clinchfest then got bullied and quit.
                      Exactly, well said!

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