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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #31
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    Lomachenko is a really good fighter, arguably p4p the best, but this is ridiculous.

    Guillermo Rigondeax hurt his left hand, full stop; their tactics basically negated each other, but Rigondeax didn't take a beating, his face wasn't marked with swelling/cuts/bruises, and didn't end up looking hapless at all.

    Lomachenko's big TV highlight was missing a 10-punch combination for heck's sake.

    Yet now, in the spin after the fight, fans and the media are trying to act as if it was some wide washout, lol. Even if you did have the fight scored 6-0 for Lomachenko, that still does nothing to change the fact that the first 4 rounds could've basically been scored 10-10, due to neither guy landing all that much effectively.

    No one is going to go back and watch the fight again (which is likely why the spin is going to work on most folks); that should set reality for folks, but it won't.

    Oh well
    I'm pretty sure in a 10-point must system, there is no such thing as a 10-10 round. Only one fighter can be awarded 10 points in a round. The other must get a score of 9 or less....Oh yeah, and Rigo didn't come close to winning more than 1 of those first 4 rounds.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #32
      Originally posted by mlac
      If you believe Rigo hurt his hand then you are definitely missing something.
      and by that i mean a brain.
      He said he hurt his hand, so he hurt his hand; how severe the actual injury was (whether it shattered like Wilder's, or simply a really bad busted knuckle) will likely never be known fully. Still, Rigondeax ended up fighting like someone with an an actual injury; I wasn't counting, but he sure as heck didn't throw many lefts, even to the body.

      This isn't some serial where a guy spends a whole fight winging hooks, only to start complain of a shoulder injury after the fact.

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      • Scipio2009
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        #33
        Originally posted by wlad1111
        way to refute a point almost nobody is making. It was a complete domination not a huge beating because all rigo did was hug and bend over at the waist.
        How can it be 'complete domination' when Lomachenko only landed 15% of his shots?

        If they fought 10 times, there's nothing that Lomachenko showed in that fight that'd lead you to see him landing at will against Rigondeax.

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        • sunny31
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          #34
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          How can it be 'complete domination' when Lomachenko only landed 15% of his shots?

          If they fought 10 times, there's nothing that Lomachenko showed in that fight that'd lead you to see him landing at will against Rigondeax.
          How can you put a stat in there like that with no context. It makes you come across with a biased perspective. You fail to mention that he actually doubled Rigo's connect % and oulanded him by nearly 4 to 1.

          I already told you that you can't shine on a defensive master like Rigondeaux in that way. Hearns outclassed Wilfred Benitez in a similar way, he wasn't connecting at a high percentage because Benitez was a defensive wizard also, but Hearns didn't allow him to get off at all. Loma did the same, but probably an even more dominant manner in those first 6 rounds.

          He outboxed a great boxer and although Rigo evaded a lot of shots, he was never in a position to counter. If the fight had continued I think it could have got ugly for Rigo.

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          • Scipio2009
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            #35
            Originally posted by Ganstaz003
            Actually, Lomachenko out-landed Rigondeaux in every round (except may be the first) and it appeared as if he was practically taking it easy on Rigondeaux because he was the smaller man and he probably was boxing with the intention of not trying to inflict too much damage on the self proclaimed smaller sized opponent through the punches he landed (Lomachenko admitted that he doesn't deserve too much credit for that victory by admitting Rigondeaux was from a lower weight division).

            So by virtue of Rigondeaux being out-landed, he got 'schooled'.

            There is no evidence yet that Rigondeaux was really injured. Until then, I refuse to believe that the injury was real, rather than an excuse.

            Lomachenko missed punches but he also landed a lot more than Rigondeaux. So what is the relevance of him missing if that is the case? Landing more > missing more!
            It's 55 landed punches though, likely counting a bunch of those in-clinch tap punches.

            No need to make it more than what it actually was.

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            • GhostofDempsey
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              #36
              Whatever punches Loma missed, also prevented Rigo from launching his own offensive. He couldn't get anything going because that jab was in his face all night...oh wait, it wasn't all night because Rigo quit half way through...never mind.

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              • Tony Trick-Pony
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                #37
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                Lomachenko is a really good fighter, arguably p4p the best, but this is ridiculous.

                Guillermo Rigondeax hurt his left hand, full stop; their tactics basically negated each other, but Rigondeax didn't take a beating, his face wasn't marked with swelling/cuts/bruises, and didn't end up looking hapless at all.

                Lomachenko's big TV highlight was missing a 10-punch combination for heck's sake.

                Yet now, in the spin after the fight, fans and the media are trying to act as if it was some wide washout, lol. Even if you did have the fight scored 6-0 for Lomachenko, that still does nothing to change the fact that the first 4 rounds could've basically been scored 10-10, due to neither guy landing all that much effectively.

                No one is going to go back and watch the fight again (which is likely why the spin is going to work on most folks); that should set reality for folks, but it won't.

                Oh well
                I've watched it three times.

                Gets funnier every time.

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                • Dean_Razorback
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                  #38
                  funny thing pedro diaz was checking his right hand in the corner but then they told the doctor it was the left wrist

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                  • RussB23
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    How can you school someone while only landing 15% of your own punches?

                    They stalled each other out, but Lomachenko got the rounds because he was moving his hands while Rigo wasn't.
                    You dont have to land a high percentage of punches to outclass someone.

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                    • Mr Objecitivity
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      It's 55 landed punches though, likely counting a bunch of those in-clinch tap punches.

                      No need to make it more than what it actually was.
                      Doesn't matter! Rigondeaux was OUT-LANDED in every round except maybe the first. Ergo, he lost every round except may be the first. Ergo, he was out-classed and schooled in every round except the first. Ergo, he was out-classed and schooled overall.

                      Yes, Lomachenko may have landed a few tap punches. However, landing tap punches is better than landing nothing which was the case in many instances in most rounds.

                      Plus, Lomachenko landed more effective punches too. Lomachenko landed many jabs, hooks, uppercuts and left hands that were snapping Rigondeaux's head into the direction of where the punch was coming from.

                      I'm not making it more than what it was. I'm calling it for what it was. Which was Lomachenko clearly winning at least 5 out of the 6 rounds in the bout. By way of out-landing Rigondeaux and almost totally neutralizing Rigondeaux's offense.

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