How can Loma be #1 P4P and ATG if he already lost?

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  • BoxingIsGreat
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    #11
    Originally posted by Matt60
    I don't get the ATG hype that Loma is getting. One good win and all of a sudden he is a top fighter? Ignoring the fact that he lost already to a non-ATG fighter. He can't be in the conversation of recent greats like Mayweather, GGG, Crawford, and Ward since they have 0 losses on their resume.

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    • rr00676
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      #12
      Originally posted by Matt60
      95% of the ATG started their careers 20-0, 30-0, etc. Its unprecedented to have a loss that early in his career and still be called ATG. The only comparable is Manny Pacquaio but he had to 40 fights afterwards to make up for those losses.
      ....and how many have got a world title in their third fight?

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      • Bobby Shaw
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        #13
        Fighting small boys doesn't make one pound for pound. Loma has to beat some credible opponents not some guys who weight 22 kgs. People like Pacquiao and Mayweather moved up in weight and proved they belong. Loma has a long way to go before he can be considered for the pound for pound stakes.

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        • KillaMane26
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          #14
          People like this ruin the sport of boxing....

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          • Slicc
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            #15
            Originally posted by Matt60
            I don't get the ATG hype that Loma is getting. One good win and all of a sudden he is a top fighter?
            One good win? He beat Gary Russel Jr, Rocky Martinez and Nicholas Walters, in addition to Guillermo Rigondeaux. Mind you, he's only fought 11 times as a professional. I don't consider Loma an ATG yet, but you look ******, discrediting a guy over other people's opinions.

            Originally posted by Matt60
            Ignoring the fact that he lost already to a non-ATG fighter.
            He lost a controversial decision against a massively overweight, nut-punching, 3x world champion in his 2nd professional bout. There's a reason Salido's been ducking Loma ever since.

            Originally posted by Matt60
            He can't be in the conversation of recent greats like Mayweather, GGG, Crawford, and Ward since they have 0 losses on their resume.
            None of them achieved what Loma did, in their first 11 bouts. No wonder boxers are out here ducking like fuck; people like you act like a loss is the end of the world. Also, GGG and Crawford are ATG's to you? You sound like you know fuck all about boxing.
            Last edited by Slicc; 12-11-2017, 12:59 PM.

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            • redmish
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              #16
              Most ATGs have losses on their record. A loss isn't the end of the world and part of being a great fighter is learning from a loss. I think most of us would agree that Loma would beat salido with ease if they fought again.

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              • Lester Tutor
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                #17
                Originally posted by rr00676
                ....and how many have got a world title in their third fight?
                ffs...lol..

                two vacant WBO World title shots back to back? At least Haymon's GRJ had some winning rounds, again, GRJ fighting the bigger guy who was fighting at Lightweight since 2011!

                amazing how fans don't know how Promotional companies that have the money and the fighter, when the opportunity is there, that they can afford it.

                With Loma having already lost they were in the perfect spot to risk a bid and have Loma fight for another WBO shot. Why do you think people laugh at the idea how Kovalev got a title shot with Shabramsky after losing twice to Ward or who had lost to Sullivan Barrera?

                Do you think Top Rank thinks NOW that Shakur Stevenson now, with his record and Olympic pedigree, can beat any of the top 4 Feathers that have Champion pedigree status already in them?

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                • Luilun
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                  #18
                  Losing has nothing to do with P4P it's the opponents that you beat and your skills anyone can be undefeated if you are Cherry Picking fights by fighting Bums and has been fighters or getting gift decisions by Judges and Promoters

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                  • niceyboo3
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                    #19
                    You don't beat Rocky, Russell, Walters and Rigo and not be p4p.

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                    • SUBZER0ED
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                      #20
                      Lomachenko hasn't been around long enough yet nor fought enough top contenders and champs to be an ATG, but P4P, he's a bad man! His ability to totally outclass notable opponents in amazing fashion is what's giving him the accolade of best P4P and projections to be an ATG. We'll have to wait & see how he measures up, as he continues to challenge himself with bigger and better fighters with more heart than Rigondeaux.

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