How can Loma be #1 P4P and ATG if he already lost?

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  • Matt60
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    How can Loma be #1 P4P and ATG if he already lost?

    I don't get the ATG hype that Loma is getting. One good win and all of a sudden he is a top fighter? Ignoring the fact that he lost already to a non-ATG fighter. He can't be in the conversation of recent greats like Mayweather, GGG, Crawford, and Ward since they have 0 losses on their resume.
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    He isn't either.

    I'm a fan of his but he's not p4p no.1 yet and certainly not an ATG. He has the ability to be but you need to prove it over time and have a bit of longevity in my opinion.

    If he fought and beat Mikey Garcia, i'd say p4p no.1 is fair. True ATG status should be judged at the end of a career or the back end of a great career.

    The term "All Time Great" shouldn't be thrown around lightly.

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    • DuckAdonis
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      #3
      He's not an ATG but he can be p4p #1 with a SD loss in his 2nd pro fight to a former world champ, Why couldnt he be ?

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      • BrometheusBob.
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        #4
        Most ATGs have lost

        Granted, Lomachenko is not an ATG yet but he is still #1 P4P imo. Quality opponents and quality performances over the last 3 years have made up for the loss.

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        • John Locke
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          #5
          All ATGs and P4P fighters are undefeated. Only bums take losses!

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          • Robbie Barrett
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            #6
            ................... poor trolling

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            • Matt60
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              95% of the ATG started their careers 20-0, 30-0, etc. Its unprecedented to have a loss that early in his career and still be called ATG. The only comparable is Manny Pacquaio but he had to 40 fights afterwards to make up for those losses.

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              • BrometheusBob.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Matt60
                95% of the ATG started their careers 20-0, 30-0, etc. Its unprecedented to have a loss that early in his career and still be called ATG. The only comparable is Manny Pacquaio but he had to 40 fights afterwards to make up for those losses.
                We should be allowed to change people's user titles to say IDKSAB after posts like this

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                • DuckAdonis
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Matt60
                  95% of the ATG started their careers 20-0, 30-0, etc. Its unprecedented to have a loss that early in his career and still be called ATG. The only comparable is Manny Pacquaio but he had to 40 fights afterwards to make up for those losses.
                  Bernard Hopkins did

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                  • GGG Gloveking
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BrometheusBob.
                    We should be allowed to change people's user titles to say IDKSAB after posts like this

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