If Crawford destroyed Lomachenko at 140 how much credit would he get?

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #1

    If Crawford destroyed Lomachenko at 140 how much credit would he get?

    This would be like Rigo moving up to 130. How much credit would you give Crawford for beating Loma at 140?
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    #2
    It depends on how he beat him. If he won by using his size advantage (like how Golovkin did against Kell Brook in some rounds during their bout), then I wouldn't give Crawford much credit.

    However, if Crawford beat Lomachenko without relying on his size advantage. That is, by being the more skilled boxer defensively (getting hit less by Lomachenko's punches) and more skilled boxer offensively (landing more punches without relying too much on raw power). Then I would give Crawford the credit that he deserves. Which is that he would be credited as the more skilled boxer between the two.

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    • sunny31
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      A lot I would imagine, beating a fighter of that calibre even if he is a couple of weight divisions in natural size smaller is still impressive. To be honest the size difference between Crawford and Loma is probably bigger than Loma-Rigo.

      Don't forget that Rigo had a 3 inch reach advantage, which was overlooked by a lot of people prior to the bout, I thought that might play in Rigo's hands and negate the height and size difference in the fight, but Rigo never got going at all. He was reluctant to engage, and uncomfortable with the pace set.

      The size made a difference for sure, but it was the combination of Loma's size and skill - but to answer your original question, yes you still have to give these guys lots of credit, at the end of the day its not like Rigo has gone up several weight divisions and then taken on the best guy, like say Oscar did staring at 130 and then going up to 160 against Hopkins.

      Loma-Riga were never that far apart in weight amateur or professional. I think the age, the weight, the inactiveness, and abilities all played a factor in the one-sidedness of the result, but at the end of the day the better man won, he won by a mile, time to move on.

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      • Vlad_
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        #4
        Loma started his pro career at 126, moved up to 130, and will probably move up to 135 now.
        Rigo started at 122 and stayed stuck there. He could have easily moved up to 126 for a while already....
        Crawford started his at 135, moved to 140, and is now moving up to 147...
        Crawford fighting Loma at 135 would be a similar scenario, as that would represent 2 weight classes up from where Loma started, not 140...
        147 for Crawford is what 135 is for Loma... 2 moves up since beginning their pro.

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        • anyesi@aol.com
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          0 credit. And we all know it. But won't happen.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Vlad_
            Loma started his pro career at 126, moved up to 130, and will probably move up to 135 now.
            Rigo started at 122 and stayed stuck there. He could have easily moved up to 126 for a while already....
            Crawford started his at 135, moved to 140, and is now moving up to 147...
            Crawford fighting Loma at 135 would be a similar scenario, as that would represent 2 weight classes up from where Loma started, not 140...
            147 for Crawford is what 135 is for Loma... 2 moves up since beginning their pro.
            I'm not even going to look this one up. But I don't think Rigo started his career at 122. Keep talking **** though.

            Edit: Some mistake too eh? Rigo was just such a giant 122 pounder. No way he could of made 118 right? lol
            Last edited by Evil_Meat; 12-11-2017, 12:05 PM.

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            • BrometheusBob.
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              Idk, Loma is not a huge 130lb fighter.

              It'd at least be his best win though for sure.

              EDIT: I'm assuming that Crawford makes 140 for the fight.
              Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 12-11-2017, 11:32 AM.

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                Beating smaller men is the benchmark for greatness

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                • Raonic
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                  A ton of credit but Loma's stock wouldn't get hurt. Crawford is 147 now anyway. That's a pretty big gap.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sunny31
                    To be honest the size difference between Crawford and Loma is probably bigger than Loma-Rigo.
                    to be honest? by ratio it looks consistent

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