I think Vasyl Lomachenko is the best fighter I've ever seen.

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  • Lomadeaux
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    #81
    Originally posted by White Willy
    Roy Jones Jr. and Prince Naseem had that untouchable vibe in their primes. But Lomachenko is on another level.
    Hamed never had an 'untouchable' vibe. When he truly tested himself he got massacred and retired.

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      #82
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      It was impossible to beat him for fat midgets like Eddie Chambers.

      Tyson Fury would have played with Wlad in his prime the same way he did in 2015.

      Like how Danny Williams and Kevin Mcbride would've played with Mike Tyson, even in Mike Tyson's prime like they did after 2002?

      Like how Trevor Berbick and Larry Holmes would've played with Muhammad Ali, even during Ali's prime like they did after 1980?

      Like how Larry Donald would've played with Evander Holyfield even during Holyfield's prime, like how he did against him after 2002?


      No heavyweight did better than Wlad did against the best young heavyweights near the age of 40. Most were either retired, or were losing to inferior boxers than Fury or Joshua. Or they were fighting bums / journeymens whilst avoiding the best competition.

      It was Tyson Fury who ducked out of a rematch, just to keep things in perspective. That is, despite having a 10+ year age advantage over a near 40 year old, past his best Wladimir Klitschko. So Tyson Fury's own actions speaks volumes about his own chances of beating a past his best Wladimir Klitschko, never mind a prime Wlad. It totally contradicts your contradictory speculation. Yet, somehow according to you he is going to beat prime Wladimir Klitschko when he ducked out of a rematch against a near 40 year old Wladimir Klitschko and was barely even able to land a glove on Wlad during the first bout?

      Let us know how good Fury is looking against the best young heavyweights when he is 38 years old (assuming he is still even boxing).

      Wladimir Klitschko from 2006-2012 = superhuman like Ivan Drago! Unbeatable and unstoppable! Didn't even lose a round during this period.

      Who gives a flying fu7k about un-evolved and partially grown flyweights like Vasyl Lomachenko or Floyd Mayweather jr? They wouldn't survive 30 seconds against Wladimir Klitschko. Would get knocked the fu7ck out by the first jab.

      heavyweight boxing = real boxing!

      Best heavyweight = best boxer!

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        #83
        Originally posted by Mr Subjectivity
        Like how Danny Williams and Kevin Mcbride would've played with Mike Tyson, even in Mike Tyson's prime like they did after 2002?

        Like how Trevor Berbick and Larry Holmes would've played with Muhammad Ali, even during Ali's prime like they did after 1980?

        Like how Larry Donald would've played with Evander Holyfield even during Holyfield's prime, like how he did against him after 2002?


        No heavyweight did better than Wlad did against the best young heavyweights near the age of 40. Most were either retired, or were losing to inferior boxers than Fury or Joshua. Or they were fighting bums / journeymens whilst avoiding the best competition.

        It was Tyson Fury who ducked out of a rematch, just to keep things in perspective. That is, despite having a 10+ year age advantage over a near 40 year old, past his best Wladimir Klitschko. So Tyson Fury's own actions speaks volumes about his own chances of beating a past his best Wladimir Klitschko, never mind a prime Wlad. It totally contradicts your contradictory speculation. Yet, somehow according to you he is going to beat prime Wladimir Klitschko when he ducked out of a rematch against a near 40 year old Wladimir Klitschko and was barely even able to land a glove on Wlad during the first bout?

        Let us know how good Fury is looking against the best young heavyweights when he is 38 years old (assuming he is still even boxing).

        Wladimir Klitschko from 2006-2012 = superhuman like Ivan Drago! Unbeatable and unstoppable! Didn't even lose a round during this period.

        Who gives a flying fu7k about un-evolved and partially grown flyweights like Vasyl Lomachenko or Floyd Mayweather jr? They wouldn't survive 30 seconds against Wladimir Klitschko. Would get knocked the fu7ck out by the first jab.

        heavyweight boxing = real boxing!

        Best heavyweight = best boxer!
        No not at all the same and your examples are totally unrelated to Wlad and Fury.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat
          I didn't say that he is the greatest pro but he is great abd he's proven to be the best amateur by beating Rigo, in my opinion.
          ive never seen him fight armature

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            #85
            He's an incredible boxer, but he looks like a nonce.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Lomadeaux
              Hamed never had an 'untouchable' vibe. When he truly tested himself he got massacred and retired.
              He did. Great fighters were ducking him.

              https://********/uPcD-WVZpyQ

              Have you even seen the fight? Massacred is a huge exaggeration.

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                #87
                Originally posted by White Willy
                Like, fighters who's careers I've seen unfolding. Lived through their eras. I don't think I've ever seen anyone as good. Roy Jones Jr. and Prince Naseem had that untouchable vibe in their primes. But Lomachenko is on another level.
                Nobody can dispute your opinion which is just your opinion. Physically he may be best. But resume isn't quite the best yet

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  He did. Great fighters were ducking him.

                  https://********/uPcD-WVZpyQ

                  Have you even seen the fight? Massacred is a huge exaggeration.
                  Are you saying that Auggie Sanchez was an elite fighter?

                  How about when Floyd called him out after Manfredy? Merchant interrupted quickly and said, "Floyd, Hamed probably just saw this fight, he's not going to fight you."

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                    Are you saying that Auggie Sanchez was an elite fighter?

                    How about when Floyd called him out after Manfredy? Merchant interrupted quickly and said, "Floyd, Hamed probably just saw this fight, he's not going to fight you."
                    You didn't watch the video did you?

                    HBO explains Hamed at the time offered Barrera, Morales, Marquez and Tapia all their highest ever pay days to fight him. They all turned it down.

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                    • Lomadeaux
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      You didn't watch the video did you?

                      HBO explains Hamed at the time offered Barrera, Morales, Marquez and Tapia all their highest ever pay days to fight him. They all turned it down.
                      That's all fine and dandy. But Barrera DID fight him, and that was the real true test of his career... and he ended it.

                      Merchant telling Floyd he's crazy for thinking Hamed would even consider fighting him.

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