Comments Thread For: DeGale: I Came Back Too Soon, Should Have Waited Until 2018

[IronDanHamza]

I thought Degale lost to Piotr Wilczewski years ago.

To be honest he has overachieved for my money.

Never saw all this "talent" people saw in Degale. He is not very talented or skilled or just generally good.

[mlac]

I guess we just disagree. I see everyone saying "finally", because they've seen the same thing before, but with questionable outcomes. No one seems surprised at anything but the scores.

I wonder what my good buddy daggum thinks about the topic. If Degale was much better before and is simply shot now.

not sure how a few people on an internet forum equates to 'everyone' but ok then.

As for not being better before, your right he just happened to be the consensus no.1 in the division and reigning world champ for years by getting a whole bunch of robberies as the away fighter, fighting in a whole bunch of boxers hometowns, which is what you seem to be implying.

Im beginning to think your just trolling nowadays.

[daggum]

not sure how a few people on an internet forum equates to 'everyone' but ok then.

As for not being better before, your right he just happened to be the consensus no.1 in the division and reigning world champ for years by getting a whole bunch of robberies as the away fighter, fighting in a whole bunch of boxers hometowns, which is what you seem to be implying.

Im beginning to think your just trolling nowadays.

he should have been coming off a loss for sure. maybe even 2. not #1 unless you blindly follow boxing establishment which is the same establishment that tells you ward is p4p #1 after robbing a guy and low blowing him to death.

[SkillspayBills]

I can't believe me and daggum ****ing agree on something. Hell hath frozen over.

[Redd Foxx]

Yep. It was bound to happen eventually. One of the most inconsistent fighters out there.

Crazy thing was, he was CONSISTENTLY inconsistent. In every fight, he'd have the same inexplicable lapses. No matter how good or bad the competition was. I've been pointing that out for years on this forum. Against Jack, Degale was supposed to finally have his cardio tuned in. He and his trainers went on and on about how he finally trained the "right way" and that was going to be the big reveal. Nope, same shyt.

[mlac]

he should have been coming off a loss for sure. maybe even 2. not #1 unless you blindly follow boxing establishment which is the same establishment that tells you ward is p4p #1 after robbing a guy and low blowing him to death.

Every close fight nowdays is a robbery, and when an actual robbery does happen (ward kov 1) that just turns into 'it was a close fight could of gone either way'

A fight that statement does actually apply to is the jack fight, i would have no problem with a jack win, a degale win or the actual draw. peoples memory just gets warped because jack finished very strong. if it was the other way around & the KD's were reversed then people would be screaming about a robbery the otherway....

Now every degale win is a robbery, ive seen people claim dirrell won the degale fight FFS, people are just dumb man, just look in this thread ' he lost to that polish guy when he was a up and coming prospect 10 years ago, he was never any good'

Tyson fury lost to plumber john mccdermot at the same stage in his career (he schooled him in the rematch) as soon as he loses and looks degale just did in his comeback i guarantee people will say

' he was never that good, massively overrated, he lost to john mcdermot!!!!'

[Redd Foxx]

I can't believe me and daggum ****ing agree on something. Hell hath frozen over.

You and me both. I was so excited when I used the "shout" tag to summon his opinion and he actually agreed with me.
It was a milestone.

And now, I think my work is done here... Peace out yall'......
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[b00g13man]

Crazy thing was, he was CONSISTENTLY inconsistent. In every fight, he'd have the same inexplicable lapses. No matter how good or bad the competition was. I've been pointing that out for years on this forum. Against Jack, Degale was supposed to finally have his cardio tuned in. He and his trainers went on and on about how he finally trained the "right way" and that was going to be the big reveal. Nope, same shyt.

Nothing to disagree with here. I was expecting big things from him, then eventually realised it would never happen.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Was no different than any other Degale fight, except even the judges were sick of Degale this time. This was a long time coming.

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This...👌🏻
He’s been exposed time and time again due to his poor fundamentals.

[BUCSBronzemedal]

Degale may have peaked already. he won Olympic gold at 22, he's won British, Euro and World title in the pro's, he's achieved everything. His workrate was low and his jab had no effect on Truax so invited pressure and often got pinned against the ropes and took a lot of damage. He obviously trained hard because he recovered after that 5th round beating so his fitness was there and he actually moved round well in the 12th round.

This is now the 3rd title fight in 3 months where I am totally confused as to why the fighter (in this case Degale) thinks they can win on the backfoot with little offensive output.
- Hughie Fury
- Willie Monroe jr
-James Degale

Credit to Caleb Truax though, he rightfully got the decision with a gritsy pressure style performance.

I scored the fight 116-112 in favour of Caleb Truax

I wonder if there was a rematch clause?

Probably not if the IBF made Dirrell the interim champion but he has been ordered to rematch Uzcategi so is there an opportunity for the rematch I wonder?