Why is Crawford ranked ahead of GGG and Canelo?

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  • The Comic DON
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    #11
    TRBR is the only publication that matter that has him ranked #1.

    Ring and ESPN (the other 2 that matter) have Golovkin at #1

    So overall Golovkin is #1

    If Crawford wasn't American, many of the writers who rank him #1 wouldn't if he was from another country.

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    • chrisJS
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      #12
      Pound for pound actually means if all were the same size who is the best? We aren't asking who will go ahead of who in the record books as it stands.

      Crawford passes the eye test as much or more than any fighter alive.

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      • boliodogs
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        #13
        PFP is just personal opinion and not fact. It's supposed to be how good you think a boxer is right now based on very recent fights. It's not the same as resume at at all. Resume is what a boxer has already done, PFP is how good you think a boxer is today for his weight class from what you have seen. He doesn't have to have beaten anybody special. You only have to think he is good for his pounds. Anybody can rank boxers anyway they want and nobody can tell others how to rank boxers pound for pound. If you don't think Crawford is number 1 then don't put him number 1. I have GGG number 1 and Crawford number 3 behind Loma but that's just me. I don't tell others where they should rank boxers PFP. That's their choice.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #14
          Originally posted by The Comic DON
          TRBR is the only publication that matter that has him ranked #1.

          Ring and ESPN (the other 2 that matter) have Golovkin at #1

          So overall Golovkin is #1

          If Crawford wasn't American, many of the writers who rank him #1 wouldn't if he was from another country.
          ESPN doesn't matter. RING is incredibly biased given the owner.

          The TRBR is fair and unbiased, and doesn't do things like make a voter change his vote for TV purposes like ESPN did with Atlas.

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          • Sheldon312
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            #15
            Originally posted by Banko Villas
            The question should rather be, why are Golovkin and Canelo even on the P4P list? Crawford has managed to be the one unbeatable guy in multiple divisions that no one there could mess with, while Golovkin and Canelo are not even the definitive champs of one division and have plenty of opponents around that could possibly beat them. They simply don't have Crawford's aura of invincibility and he's not a primitive slugger like them.
            Both are highly skilled and both have better resumes than Crawford

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            • Sheldon312
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              #16
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              Pound for pound actually means if all were the same size who is the best? We aren't asking who will go ahead of who in the record books as it stands.

              Crawford passes the eye test as much or more than any fighter alive.
              Loma, Spence, Charlos, and Rigo say hi.

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              • yankees7448
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                #17
                Originally posted by Sheldon312
                Yes, but GGG has the better resume. That's like saying Mikey should be ranked higher than Thurman due to being more technical but it is clear that Keith has the superior resume
                Its very subjective. People have different criteria.

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                • BoxingIsGreat
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Banko Villas
                  The question should rather be, why are Golovkin and Canelo even on the P4P list? Crawford has managed to be the one unbeatable guy in multiple divisions that no one there could mess with, while Golovkin and Canelo are not even the definitive champs of one division and have plenty of opponents around that could possibly beat them. They simply don't have Crawford's aura of invincibility and he's not a primitive slugger like them.
                  I agree with this. Good observation.

                  I think it's because there aren't any REAL, true elites anymore. Just a bunch of pretenders and prospects!

                  Green K sent.

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                  • BoxingIsGreat
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sheldon312
                    Both are highly skilled and both have better resumes than Crawford
                    Don't tie Canelo to GGG. Canelo might have a better resume than Crawford, but GGG has below average resume. Wade, Geale, Rosado, et al? His resume is shit.

                    Golovkin is strong but robotic, with no defense. His defense is especially a joke. What skills of Golovkin have wowed you? He scores average here. I used to like his punch technique and ring cutting skills (even these don't seem to work against B and B+ boxers like Jacobs and Canelo).

                    The only two times he had stepped up, they were both disputable.
                    Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 12-08-2017, 05:41 PM.

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                    • Sheldon312
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                      Don't tie Canelo to GGG. Canelo might have a better resume than Crawford, but GGG has below average resume. Wade, Geale, Rosado, et al? His resume is shit.

                      Golovkin is strong but robotic, with no defense. His defense is especially a joke. What skills of Golovkin have wowed you? He scores average here. I used to like his punch technique and ring cutting skills (even these don't seem to work against B and B+ boxers like Jacobs and Canelo).

                      The only two times he had stepped up, they were both disputable.
                      He beat Jacobs convincingly and arguably beat Canelo.

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