Comments Thread For: Bob Arum Very Open To Do Talent "Trades" With Showtime

[killakali]

All of those guys are with PBC, fighting on Showtime/CBS and FOX/FS1, and you already know that.

Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Errol Spence Jr, and Shawn Porter all need fights. Heck, fights against Adrien Broner, Jesse Vargas, and even Andre Berto likely pay better than what Top Rank is offering to fight (Rigo and Lomachenko splitting $2m on the fight confirms about where the budget for these Top Rank cards are for ESPN, and you've continued to insist that Crawford is getting $2m+ per fight). lol

damn bro are u okay? Another one of my predictions come right. I hope you aren't on suicide watch lol. you said and i quote "no way they will sign and that they will only fight on a fight by fight basis with Warren." As usual you were wrong again lmao

http://www.boxingscene.com/lee-selby-inks-three-fight-deal-with-frank-warren--123381

As I had told you before Selby and DeGale would sign with Warren because Haymon couldn't keep them busy enough. No one could predict DeGale losing so he isn't a hot commodity anymore but Selby was. Now Selby and Frampton are available to fight Valdez and JoJo Diaz.

The pool is getting deeper on the non PBC side

[Scipio2009]

FS1 could happen without Fox if it did happen. And lets be real. It was 3 fox shows last year with budgets slashed. It isn't a big difference maker anyway. Fox doesn't need to see what happens with the UFC to decide if they want to continue receiving time buy paychecks from PBC. The problem is PBC doesn't have the money to keep buying the time.

Garcia starting camp in late November means he should be back in late February but if there isn't a date that could easily be back up to March its only a week or two lmao. And if he does fight in Feb/March like I predicted there is no way he fights again in June. You know it and I know it.

Looking just from Instagram, Garcia was in camp on Thanksgiving, with the bloat seemingly having already been worked off. lol

Beyond that, why would PBC buy another round of time-buys? The first phase is over, and there are data points across cable and terrestrial TV, for Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, Friday, Wednesday, day and night.

Why play dumb? FOX is clearly interested, and there's nearly three years of data to build the case for a longterm deal.

[Scipio2009]

damn bro are u okay? Another one of my predictions come right. I hope you aren't on suicide watch lol. you said and i quote "no way they will sign and that they will only fight on a fight by fight basis with Warren." As usual you were wrong again lmao

http://www.boxingscene.com/lee-selby-inks-three-fight-deal-with-frank-warren--123381

As I had told you before Selby and DeGale would sign with Warren because Haymon couldn't keep them busy enough. No one could predict DeGale losing so he isn't a hot commodity anymore but Selby was. Now Selby and Frampton are available to fight Valdez and JoJo Diaz.

The pool is getting deeper on the non PBC side

Selby's next fight is against Josh Warrington (Warren fighter), and if that goes well, they'll likely line up Carl Frampton (Warren fighter). The deal is for three fights, with the third fight hashed out between Haymon/Selby's coach and Warren.

And then, the deal is done with; depending on how things go, you're literally talking about 12-14 months, at the most.

Warrington in April, Frampton in the Fall (Warren promised a Belfast stadium fight, and that'd deliver it), and the final bout in the winter (with either Valdez or Diaz as options to travel to the UK, unless Warren can flip Selby's last fight into options on one of the two).

Settle the three dates (while also getting a chance at Valdez's belt) and Selby is back clearing things up with LSC/Russell Jr/Mares/etc for division supremacy.

Selby gets the two fights that he would've gotten anyway, and gives Warren one more, and you're hear harping as if this was a three-year deal. lol

[killakali]

Selby's next fight is against Josh Warrington (Warren fighter), and if that goes well, they'll likely line up Carl Frampton (Warren fighter). The deal is for three fights, with the third fight hashed out between Haymon/Selby's coach and Warren.

And then, the deal is done with; depending on how things go, you're literally talking about 12-14 months, at the most.

Warrington in April, Frampton in the Fall (Warren promised a Belfast stadium fight, and that'd deliver it), and the final bout in the winter (with either Valdez or Diaz as options to travel to the UK, unless Warren can flip Selby's last fight into options on one of the two).

Settle the three dates (while also getting a chance at Valdez's belt) and Selby is back clearing things up with LSC/Russell Jr/Mares/etc for division supremacy.

Selby gets the two fights that he would've gotten anyway, and gives Warren one more, and you're hear harping as if this was a three-year deal. lol

Just like always. I am right. You were wrong. You just said that he will fight these 3 fights in 14 months. If he stuck with PBC he wouldn't likely even get two fights in that time frame LMAOOOO.

Plus it is more likely after the first two fights that Selby will extend his contract with Warren while his contract with Haymon expires just like Danny Jacobs did

[killakali]

Looking just from Instagram, Garcia was in camp on Thanksgiving, with the bloat seemingly having already been worked off. lol

Beyond that, why would PBC buy another round of time-buys? The first phase is over, and there are data points across cable and terrestrial TV, for Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, Friday, Wednesday, day and night.

Why play dumb? FOX is clearly interested, and there's nearly three years of data to build the case for a longterm deal.

Why play dumb? FOX clearly ISN'T interested. That's why there were 3 dates out of 365 days in 2017. They just aren't interested period. They were just interested in collecting the money PBC owed them on their contract. If they were interested they would have paid for a show....lmaoo....

[Zaroku]

Yup schlomo arum is gonna wait out big fights like Crawford vs spence but in the mean while we'll have crawford vs Luis collazo

Collazo is game anytime in the ring, plus he can take a horrific beating.

[Scipio2009]

Just like always. I am right. You were wrong. You just said that he will fight these 3 fights in 14 months. If he stuck with PBC he wouldn't likely even get two fights in that time frame LMAOOOO.

Plus it is more likely after the first two fights that Selby will extend his contract with Warren while his contract with Haymon expires just like Danny Jacobs did

Why would he extend with Frank Warren after taking on the two fights that Warren could offer? lol

[killakali]

Why would he extend with Frank Warren after taking on the two fights that Warren could offer? lol

why wouldn’t he? U must not know boxing. Depends on the minimums, guaranteed number of fights per year, etc. Plus that is over a year from now. Who knows what Warren has then to offer? He could still get Selby fights with Valdez and Donaire and Quigg by staying with Warren lol. U don’t have to only fight the guys in your own promotional company lol.

What would be better? How about signing with someone like haymon like let’s take a Austin Trout and Lamont Peterson. How is that working out for them lmao? They both on this very site have said they want to be active and have been available to fight but no fights have been offered to them? That’s sounds like the smart way to go lol.

Inactive 30 year old plus fighters usually don’t fare to well. And what were these guys rewards? Long layoffs so they could get thrown in with monsters like hurd and Spence?

Gee I bet their “advisor” had their best interests at best. 17 months off then fight a huge 154 pound guy like hurd for Trout and 11 month layoff to get thrown in with Spence for Peterson? And Peterson had a forced 14 month layoff before the forced 11 month layoff. 1 fight in 25 months.

Did their advisor do the right thing and get them a tune up a few months prior? Nope.

And that’s exactly why Selby signed with Warren. At least when he was with hearn when pbc has nothing for him he could fight his mandatories in the UK

[N/A]

How about signing with someone like haymon like let’s take a Austin Trout and Lamont Peterson. How is that working out for them lmao?

Who would they have made more money with had they signed with somebody other than Haymon back when they signed with Haymon?

[killakali]

Who would they have made more money with had they signed with somebody other than Haymon back when they signed with Haymon?

at the time it was a good deal. at the time haymon had less fighters. now he has too many. peterson and trout barely fight once every 18 months. inactive and not much money. for trout he got the canelo fight and cotto fight. but now he might be better off somewhere else. same with peterson. they both have been set up to lose.