One of these Heavyweights will soon be in the WBO top 15

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  • joe strong
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    One of these Heavyweights will soon be in the WBO top 15

    A few years ago I made a thread about how journeyman Alex Leapai would be in striking distance of an eliminator or a title shot. I also have stressed throughout my time on this site the importance of regional belts getting boxers top 15 ratings. Well I was right on the money with my Leapai prediction because in 2012 he turned a win over a 13-5-1 Akmal Aslanov into a top 15 WBO ranking. He won the WBO Oriental & WBO Asian Pacific belts that night. He fought 3 times in 2013 before ending the year in a WBO final eliminator vs Denis Boytsov. He turned that win into a title shot & 1.8 million. Well on Saturday night the WBO Oriental title will be at stake in a fight between 10-3 Kurtis Pegoraro & 9-0 Eugen Buchmueller who is 37. Pegoraro is ranked #141 on boxrec & Buchmueller #305. Pegoraro did win the 8 man 1 night Prizefighter like tourney in Australia in March & just won a 4 round SD over a fighter who is 1-2-2... This guy could actually be in the WBO rankings next month...
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    Tony Yoka got a WBO ranking in 2 fights. Your man needs to stop messing around imo

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      #3
      Originally posted by Randall Cunning
      Tony Yoka got a WBO ranking in 2 fights. Your man needs to stop messing around imo
      He is in the top 15 already? I haven't seen the December WBO rankings yet...

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      • Randall Cunning
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        Originally posted by joe strong
        He is in the top 15 already? I haven't seen the December WBO rankings yet...
        Yep, in at 15 http://box.live/world-rankings/wbo/. As you say, probably picked up some kind of regional. Frank Warren is a master at working up the WBO rankings, getting fights for regionals you never knew existed.

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          Many years ago I saw a boxing segment on a UK sport show. It was a feature on how fighters were being prepped for a title shot. The upshot from an interview with a manager was that a promising prospect would be virtually guaranteed of arriving at a title shot with a unbeaten record of 15-20 fights, mainly because they would never be put in the ring with anyone remotely considered a danger to them.

          The young fighter who they profiled in this piece was the then up and coming Shannon Briggs who was carefully shepherded to 25 and 0 before unexpectedly getting knocked into next week by Darroll Wilson. I laughed my head off but he still got his shot and a dodgy decision against Foreman before Lewis ended his hopes in a brutal fashion.

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          • Tom Cruise
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            Regional belts from the main 4 bodies are basically sanctioned bribes.

            I mean, what the **** is the WBO European

            Anthony Yarde just got a ranking with the WBO from beating this guy:

            http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/651631

            Biranyi went on to lose a vacant Hungary Title shot by KO last month.

            Promoters love this stuff though, and fans dont know enough to challenge the legit belts from the paper ones, which is why it will continue happening.

            Shame because a proper recognized regional belt is great for giving the sport structure. BBBoC British/English/Celtic/Area, EBU Belt, Japanese Title, NABF. All brilliant.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Tom Cruise
              Regional belts from the main 4 bodies are basically sanctioned bribes.

              I mean, what the **** is the WBO European

              Anthony Yarde just got a ranking with the WBO from beating this guy:

              http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/651631

              Biranyi went on to lose a vacant Hungary Title shot by KO last month.

              Promoters love this stuff though, and fans dont know enough to challenge the legit belts from the paper ones, which is why it will continue happening.

              Shame because a proper recognized regional belt is great for giving the sport structure. BBBoC British/English/Celtic/Area, EBU Belt, Japanese Title, NABF. All brilliant.
              Even worse than the WBO European is that IBF East/West Europe belt which seems to have appeared out of nowhere in the last year. There are two vacant ones being handed out to English level fighters on the Warren card this weekend

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                Originally posted by NEETzsche
                Even worse than the WBO European is that IBF East/West Europe belt which seems to have appeared out of nowhere in the last year. There are two vacant ones being handed out to English level fighters on the Warren card this weekend
                Of course Warren would get involved with something like that

                The other day he had BBBoC Southern Area Champ Craig Poxton fighting BBBoC Midlands area champ Leon Woodstock for the WBO European belt

                The BBBoC English title was vacant ffs.

                Just cant see an end to this unless fans get more clued up on the scene. And the promoters/networks have zero interest in educating the fans (the opposite actually) so that will never happen

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                • Randall Cunning
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                  Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                  Of course Warren would get involved with something like that

                  The other day he had BBBoC Southern Area Champ Craig Poxton fighting BBBoC Midlands area champ Leon Woodstock for the WBO European belt

                  The BBBoC English title was vacant ffs.

                  Just cant see an end to this unless fans get more clued up on the scene. And the promoters/networks have zero interest in educating the fans (the opposite actually) so that will never happen
                  Ashley Theophane is now the German Intercontinental Super Welterweight Champion http://boxrec.com/en/event/748002

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                  • NEETzsche
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                    Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                    Of course Warren would get involved with something like that

                    The other day he had BBBoC Southern Area Champ Craig Poxton fighting BBBoC Midlands area champ Leon Woodstock for the WBO European belt

                    The BBBoC English title was vacant ffs.

                    Just cant see an end to this unless fans get more clued up on the scene. And the promoters/networks have zero interest in educating the fans (the opposite actually) so that will never happen
                    It should really be the job of journalists and TV pundits to call these things out but most of them seem to be deep in the various promoters' pockets. Dempsey on BT Sport is the only one I've seen tell it like it is

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