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  • Lou Cipher
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    #11
    He was the Ricky Hatton of 168. Kind of a European champ even though he held the WBO which back then was practically a domestic title for England.

    Roid Jones avoided him. He was king in England but couldnt secure fights with the top dogs of the day Roid Jones and James Toney

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    • coghaugen
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      A truly great fighter! Hard as nails, overcame adversities.

      He looked like he beat Reggie Johnson, who was as slick as a greaseball back then, and Reggie looked to of beaten Toney! Kalambay beat him on a split decision in Kalambay's backyard, I thought Collins outworked him with faster hands.

      Eubank beat him clearly in their first fight, though, and backed off when he could've finished the man (maybe even seriously hurt the guy) - Collins had never been down before that, other than a body shot against Kevin Watts in the 80s.

      Collins was the only guy to ever have Mike McCallum literally running away, and as a 16-fight novice at that.

      He was a huge name in the UK after beating Eubank twice, and going into the Benn fights. His performance in the second fight with Eubank was outrageous in terms of work rate and unorthodox wildness, throwing Chris off and bullying him!

      He walked through BENN's bombs! Made Benn quit twice. Nigel Benn for crying out loud - Benn was a boy in Collins' hands! THAT Collins was a world-beater, a marauding warrior. He would maraud his way in in an untidy way and grind his opponent out of there.

      Earlier in his career, Steve was a boxer and counter-puncher, or box-fighter. He had a sneaky counter overarm right that was used very effectively against Reggie Johnson. He showed very good lateral movement against Thornton, and had 90 amateur fights including beating the European champ at 178lb, so it's not like he couldn't box.

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      • coghaugen
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        #13
        Jones would've made three times the money against Collins than he did against Mike McCallum or Montell Griffin for Christsake. Collins was making twice what Jones was at the time, maybe three times even; millions to Jones's hundreds of thousands.
        Last edited by coghaugen; 12-09-2017, 12:08 AM.

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        • coghaugen
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          #14
          Jones would've smashed him though. Jones didn't need to set himself to throw shots like Eubank, or throw everything into a shot like Benn.

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            #15
            He was a good fighter
            Ive seen some highlights against him against Kalumbay, he actually had some nice boxing skills rather than just a brawler with a good chin. He outboxed Eubank aswell, pretty good counterpuncher plus he was fairly tall.
            I knew Cornellious Carr who fought Collins where he lost in a competitive UD, he told me Collins suprised him because he was so strong
            Last edited by SugarRayCurtain; 12-07-2017, 03:30 PM.

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            • TheBigLug
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              He was a pretty good fighter but mostly known for beating an over the hill Eubank and Benn.

              He also ducked Calzaghe when Joe was his mandatory and retired. Calzaghe was a dangerous fight for him then and Calzaghe at that time was also considered quite heavy handed until he hands were ruined. I think Calzaghe would have been going into the Collins fight around 21-0 with 20 KO wins. So he had a reputation that he could hit a bit and also quick with high work rate and Collins wanted none of it and vacated.

              All in all, he was a good fighter, a bit overrated by his Irish fans and would have lost to any real quality fighter that wasn't old or shot.

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              • The Truth!
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                #17
                Originally posted by TheBigLug
                He was a pretty good fighter but mostly known for beating an over the hill Eubank and Benn.
                Benn Ok. But Eubank no way in a million years! Eubank was UNDEFEATED world champ 40-0, and was just 29 years old in his prime. Collins deserves full credit for those 2 wins.

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                  #18
                  Joe Calzaghe
                  Steve Collins
                  Chris Eubank
                  Nigel Benn

                  It's in that order who proved to be the best UK/Ireland Super middles around that time.

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                  • TheBigLug
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Truth!
                    Benn Ok. But Eubank no way in a million years! Eubank was UNDEFEATED world champ 40-0, and was just 29 years old in his prime. Collins deserves full credit for those 2 wins.
                    Eubank's performances for about 2 years before that fight had been quite lacklustre, he was definitely on the decline.

                    I give Collins credit for the wins, but he definitely caught Eubank at the right time too. There's no way he beats the Eubank from a few years before that.

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                    • daggum
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by coghaugen
                      A truly great fighter! Hard as nails, overcame adversities.

                      He looked like he beat Reggie Johnson, who was as slick as a greaseball back then, and Reggie looked to of beaten Toney! Kalambay beat him on a split decision in Kalambay's backyard, I thought Collins outworked him with faster hands.

                      Eubank beat him clearly in their first fight, though, and backed off when he could've finished the man (maybe even seriously hurt the guy) - Collins had never been down before that, other than a body shot against Kevin Watts in the 80s.

                      Collins was the only guy to ever have Mike McCallum literally running away, and as a 16-fight novice at that.

                      He was a huge name in the UK after beating Eubank twice, and going into the Benn fights. His performance in the second fight with Eubank was outrageous in terms of work rate and unorthodox wildness, throwing Chris off and bullying him!

                      He walked through BENN's bombs! Made Benn quit twice. Nigel Benn for crying out loud - Benn was a boy in Collins' hands! THAT Collins was a world-beater, a marauding warrior. He would maraud his way in in an untidy way and grind his opponent out of there.

                      Earlier in his career, Steve was a boxer and counter-puncher, or box-fighter. He had a sneaky counter overarm right that was used very effectively against Reggie Johnson. He showed very good lateral movement against Thornton, and had 90 amateur fights including beating the European champ at 178lb, so it's not like he couldn't box.
                      no.....he did not.

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