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  • robertzimmerman
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    #131
    Originally posted by coghaugen
    It's very clear that Toney is a shadow of his usual self in the Jones fight. It's like night and day, not even up for debate, and Jones made hard work of it! If Jones was a great fighter he would've blown him out, simple as that - he was too scared to
    He didn't make hard work of it.

    Roy was never going to try and blow him out.

    Stop being silly.

    I will agree that James was drained though.

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      #132
      Originally posted by coghaugen
      Roy Jones was technically atrocious. Terrible. He did have power, speed and reflexes though and waited around for everyone to wash up. Smart. Not great.
      I can only assume you're trolling.

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        #133
        Originally posted by coghaugen
        Toney clearly won both Griffin fights, did much better than Jones. Jones clearly lost to Griffin, and Griffin still gave Jones a rematch after humiliating him (Jones wouldn't return the favour for rubber match).
        Just stop.

        I liked Montell, and he caused Roy some issues. But he only beat him on a technicality. Roy was silly, and he definitely deserved the DQ, but he was on his way to stopping him. Nobody can celebrate that as a win for Montell. He got up from the canvas and was awarded the win.

        Humiliating him?

        Why would Roy have given him a rubber match after icing him in under a round of their rematch?

        You can't be serious with these posts.

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          #134
          Originally posted by lightsout_finit
          Bum couldn't take body shots had poor stamina and tons of gift decisions.

          I always considered eubank as the poor mans british sven ottke.
          He clearly wasn't a bum.

          He was better than Sven.

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            #135
            Originally posted by lightsout_finit
            At least ottke would be there for 12 rounds.
            Uecoward would fight for 3 then just bank on a gift to win.

            c*nt has more robberies than any middle or supermiddle i can think off.



            Benn and Eubank ducked all the tough guys...



            You have no idea what you're talking about.
            Calzaghe Is the best fighter you listed. His record speaks for itself.

            Benn and Eucoward ducked Toney and Jones.
            Jus sayin....
            Eubank was content to defend his WBO belt on Sky and ITV in the U.K.

            Nigel Benn didn't duck anybody.

            He wanted to fight Roy in the mid 90's.

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              #136
              Originally posted by coghaugen
              I think Collins would've beaten Calzaghe in that '97
              He was at the end of his career then.

              He had no motivation to fight Joe.

              He had everything to lose and nothing to gain. He only wanted Roy at that point.

              He'd have needed to have been at his absolute best to have had a chance of beating Joe in 1997.

              I think Joe would have been too much for him, especially at that stage.

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                #137
                Collins would've landed the right at will

                Loved that perfect right he laid that Cummings guy with
                Last edited by coghaugen; 12-12-2017, 06:43 AM.

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                  #138
                  Calzaghe was power-happy at the time, believing he'd KO anyone easy

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                    #139
                    Collins would've ground down Billy Joe Saunders

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