rank higher wlad or lennox lewis?

[Simurgh]

Lewis will always get more credit because he built the career in states + he had recognisable US HWs to play with. However, I see them about the same - Wlad had almost twice as many fights and was ‘the man’ much longer, while lewis has better names on his resume.

interestingly, I think Wlad that lost to AJ beats Lennox who beat Vitali.

[Madison Boxing]

Lennox Lewis and this is not a debate and if you don't see why you shouldn't discuss.

/end thread.

[Mr Objecitivity]

It depends on how we are 'ranking' them and what 'ranking' TYPE we are using.

In terms of who would win in a head to head match up, it's a 50 / 50 odd. They are evenly matched for me. To the point where the winner would be decided by who's corner Emanuel Steward is going to be in during the bout.


In terms of accomplishments at heavyweight boxing as champions, it's clearly Wladimir Klitschko! Lennox Lewis comes close but Wladimir Klitschko has more unique accomplishments and feats compared to Lennox Lewis at championship bouts.

Here are some of those accomplishments / feats in REAL heavyweight bouts (when the boxers weigh 200 pounds or above):


1) Knocked out more previously unbeaten opponents than any other heavyweight in history.

2) Knocked out more previously UN-KO'ed opponents than any other heavyweight in history.

3) Has beaten and knocked out more southpaws than any other heavyweight champion in history.

4) Has beaten and knocked out opponents with more styles than any other heavyweight in history (especially at the elite level).

5) Has the highest number of title defenses in REAL heavyweight bouts (when opponents weigh 200 pounds or above).

6) Has the highest knockout quantity and percentage in championship bouts than any other heavyweight in history.

7) Has lost fewer rounds than any other heavyweight in history (excluding his brother Vitali Klitschko).

8) Has defeated more mandatory challengers and top ranked opponents by knockout, than any other heavyweight champion in history.

9) Has one of the best win / loss ratio in his career record, out of the number of bouts he has had.


I can keep going on but this should drive the point home! The facts are available to chek for everyone who is capable of absorbing facts.

Anyone who is arguing that either is significantly superior to the other to the point where they don't even deserve a comparison is a liar, or delusional, or irrational, or a combination of those things.

[Mr Objecitivity]

How????? Lewis had what 5 defenses???? Wlad had the most title fights in history and had more top 5 wins than any other heavyweight champ, Lewis best win was Holyfield and Tyson when they were completly washed up, Byrd, Haye, Povetkin, Pulev, Chagaev, and Brock would beat them, **** it maybe even Peter and Chambers beat them

Exactly! Ironic how some of those who picked Lennox Lewis, claiming that Wladimir Klitschko doesn't even deserve to be compared to Lennox Lewis due to the apparent significant superiority of Lennox Lewis compared to Wladimir Klitschko can't even explain and substantiate using facts on how this significant superiority exists. Fantasy and delusion are very real around here!

Also, no maybe. I believe Chambers definitely beats any version of Evander Holyfield (Chambers is bigger and better as a heavyweight than James Toney who beat Holyfield). Same thing against a washed up Mike Tyson. Prime Samuel Peter probably pulverizes the washed up Mike Tyson too.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Lewis will always get more credit because he built the career in states + he had recognisable US HWs to play with. However, I see them about the same - Wlad had almost twice as many fights and was ‘the man’ much longer, while lewis has better names on his resume.

interestingly, I think Wlad that lost to AJ beats Lennox who beat Vitali.

I agree that the Wlad that faced AJ would beat the Lewis that took on Vitali Klitschko.

I also agree that most American boxing fans of USA (and obviously most British boxing fans) would choose Lewis of Wladimir Klitschko. For nothing other than favoritism and appeal, rather than actual accomplishments.

However, when you state that Lewis has 'better names on his resume'. What exactly do you mean? What significance does that have to evaluating the worth of Lennox Lewis as a boxer compared to Wladimir Klitschko? Quality of a boxer isn't based on their name or fame. Otherwise, Mayweather's win over McGregor would be better than a potential victory of Rigondeaux over Lomachenko. The quality of a boxer is based on their record and the truth is, very few, if any of Lewis's opponents have better heavyweight records than Wlad's opponents.

[A.K]

lmao Wlad destroyed Rahman, and Wlad destroyed two guys who destroyed Rahman (Byrd and Povetkin)

That doesn’t change the fact that two journey men humiliated wlad... and Lewis almost killed rahman in the rematch he got sloppy in the first fight cause rahman was garbage

[daggum]

2 clinching turds. flush em both

[Sadiqkingofko]

That doesn’t change the fact that two journey men humiliated wlad... and Lewis almost killed rahman in the rematch he got sloppy in the first fight cause rahman was garbage

They've both had KO loss upsets, doesn't change the fact that Wlad fighter harder opposition and for a longer time, he ruled for 3 years than for 9 years, making twelve years as champ, Lewis can't compete

[redmish]

Lewis. Beat better opposition in a better era. Beat every man he ever faced too.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

It’s Lennox by a mile, the fact that ******s like Ganstaz bring up beaten most southpaws�� and beaten most mandatory’s�� to try and demonstrate Wlad’s greatness proves how weak his resume is.
Ask yourself this:
Who has the better resume? A: Lewis
Who fought better opposition? A: Lewis
Who has the better win? A: Lewis
Who defeated more former/current/future lineal champions? A: Lewis
Add to the fact Lewis only lost twice and avenged both of them convincingly, whist Wlad lost 5 times and only avenged one of them.
The only things Wlad has going for him is his number of title defenses (NOT lineal defenses both have 11) and the length of his reign, but when looking at that comparatively to his level of opposition it isn’t all that impressive.
I ain’t trying to knock Wlad he’s an ATG fighter but he ain’t nowhere near as good as Lennox.