wtf Marquez ever did to be ranked over Cotto

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  • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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    #41
    Originally posted by chrisjs
    nah. Morales is his prime for a gift over guty espadas and clearly lost a series to barrera. He was great but not marquez level.
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      #42
      Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth
      he whent life and dead with katsidis

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        #43
        Originally posted by Redd Foxx
        I've said it a lot of times, Marquez is overrated. He was a joy to watch. And, a lot of people are in love with him because he was Pac's big rival, and because of .

        But, if we're honest, it's not like he has some sort of legendary record. Or, that he was a badass because he bytched and whined constantly. He had 3 close fights w/ Pac, and another in which he had a beautiful KO. Let's not embellish beyond that.
        One of the ******est post ever.

        Marquez was the king of the lightweight and was a beast in 126-135 pounds.

        He was robbed vs John and Norwood too.

        And fighting in his 5th division he was very competitive vs Bradley in prime.

        You are a jerk and an ignorant.

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        • Mexican_Puppet
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          #44
          Originally posted by chrisJS
          Nah. Morales is his prime for a gift over Guty Espadas and clearly lost a series to Barrera. He was great but not Marquez level.
          Man you are super ignorant.

          Morales won that fight vs Espadas and the series vs Barrera were too competitive, nothing clear.

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          • chrisJS
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            #45
            Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
            Man you are super ignorant.

            Morales won that fight vs Espadas and the series vs Barrera were too competitive, nothing clear.
            Ignorant because I don't agree with you, one of the most ignorant posters here?

            It was close but Espadas deserved the decision. I am not talking about the 3rd round KO in the re-match.

            That series was ultra competitive but Barrera got the clearest wins especially the final fight.

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              #46
              Originally posted by pesticid
              JMM destroyed Pacman and arguably won 3 out of the 4 fights. He beat a lot of very good fighters such as Casamayor and Diaz.

              Cotto got destroyed by Pacman and Tony, should've lost to Clottey. Got outboxed by Trout and Mayweather. Got beat by Canelo. Cotto's best win is against a handicap Sergio Martinez.
              lol..................

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                #47
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                Ignorant because I don't agree with you, one of the most ignorant posters here?

                It was close but Espadas deserved the decision. I am not talking about the 3rd round KO in the re-match.

                That series was ultra competitive but Barrera got the clearest wins especially the final fight.
                The guy that said that Ortiz was better than Chávez and Sánchez and that Márquez won all the fights vs Pacquiao talking about be an ignorant?

                LOL

                Only in your mind Morales lost that fight.

                And with Barrera was not anything clear. Their level was too similar and all the fights were close and very competitive. No shame on that, the same Márquez had a lot of problem with a worst Barrera

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                • chrisJS
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                  The guy that said that Ortiz was better than Chávez and Sánchez and that Márquez won all the fights vs Pacquiao talking about be an ignorant?

                  LOL

                  Only in your mind Morales lost that fight.

                  And with Barrera was not anything clear. Their level was too similar and all the fights were close and very competitive. No shame on that, the same Márquez had a lot of problem with a worst Barrera
                  The same guy who claimed Valiant owned a win over Ortiz and that Benitez-Palamino not only wasn't a close fight but a total robbery. A fight that even the judge admits his score was so wacky because the sun was in his eyes.

                  Or the same guy that claimed Chavez was the unified champion at 130 or that camacho entered the Chavez fight as a champion when he was already stripped of his WBO belt which in that day was the equivalent of what IBO is today - useless. (And he hadn't been a champion for 6 years)

                  Yes, that level of ignorance.
                  Last edited by chrisJS; 12-03-2017, 01:05 PM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by chrisJS
                    The same guy who claimed Valiant owned a win over Ortiz and that Benitez-Palamino not only wasn't a close fight but a total robbery. A fight that even the judge admits his score was so wacky because the sun was in his eyes.

                    Or the same guy that claimed Chavez was the unified champion at 130 or that camacho entered the Chavez fight as a champion when he was already stripped of his WBO belt which in that day was the equivalent of what IBO is today - useless. (And he hadn't been a champion for 6 years)

                    Yes, that level of ignorance.
                    The fight of Gómez vs Lockridge was a total robbery, no doubt about that. So, the real champ was Lockridge.

                    Jajajaja the same guy that said that Camacho was shot vs Chávez when he was champ and top-5 of the weight.

                    The same guy that said that Cotto vs Canelo was a súper close fight.

                    Yeah, that level of ignorance

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                      The fight of Gómez vs Lockridge was a total robbery, no doubt about that. So, the real champ was Lockridge.

                      Jajajaja the same guy that said that Camacho was shot vs Chávez when he was champ and top-5 of the weight.

                      The same guy that said that Cotto vs Canelo was a súper close fight.

                      Yeah, that level of ignorance
                      Your ignorance again comes through. I said Gomez-Lockridge was a robbery.

                      Camacho was still not remotely prime. His prime was in the mid 80s. He WAS NOT CHAMP stop lying. He briefly held the lightly (at that time) regarded WBO (equivalent of IBO then). You know you can still be top 5 and past your best? Pacquaio was too 5 against Horn doesn't mean Horn had a close fight with prime Pacquaio. Tyson was top 5 against Lewis was he still prime?

                      I DID NOT say Canelo-Cotto was a close fight. I said OTHERS have claimed that including Nacho Beristain and Marquez. It wasn't 12-0 like you say either. Cotto was not in his prime either like you say.

                      So anyway why did you say Valiant has a win over Ortiz? When based on facts and results that's incorrect. Or was your knowledge or lack thereoff hindering your ability to think straight when you said that?

                      At least you admitted you either lied or just forgot that Chavez was not unified at 130. You can't pull stuff like that over me as it's fact based.

                      Benitez-Palomino a robbery I won't address since you made up that robbery because one guy is Mexican.

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