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  • #31
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
    Wilder brings the money that AJ doesn't touch??

    How do you explain Wilder's biggest pay-day as being 1.4 Mill, but AJ making 20 Mill in his??

    Americans are getting creepier by the day. Just a bunch of ****ing weirdo trolls who are moving further and further away from reality.
    Do you seriously not get what he said? And then have the audacity to talk bad about others?


    How much of Joshua money comes from the US? Not that much right because it is mostly coming from the UK. How much does Wilder make from the US? Like everything he makes and that number is higher than Joshua number he pulls from the US.

    So yea that is money Joshua is not normally touching but he could have if he builds his profile in the US, which is best done by beating Wilder who is ahead of him in the US market. Just because Joshua makes more than Wilder does not mean he makes more in every market or that Joshua is as big as he can be.

    Now apologize to Americans~

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    • #32
      I have to be honest, this is probably the *ONLY* thing I've heard AJ say that was correct.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
        Do you seriously not get what he said? And then have the audacity to talk bad about others?


        How much of Joshua money comes from the US? Not that much right because it is mostly coming from the UK. How much does Wilder make from the US? Like everything he makes and that number is higher than Joshua number he pulls from the US.

        So yea that is money Joshua is not normally touching but he could have if he builds his profile in the US, which is best done by beating Wilder who is ahead of him in the US market. Just because Joshua makes more than Wilder does not mean he makes more in every market or that Joshua is as big as he can be.

        Now apologize to Americans~
        Who cares about the US market when AJ is making millions at home?

        And Wilder being ahead in the US market only gets him 1.4 Mill max. Which shows the US market isn't worth bothering about.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
          Who cares about the US market when AJ is making millions at home?

          And Wilder being ahead in the US market only gets him 1.4 Mill max. Which shows the US market isn't worth bothering about.
          I am sure Hearn and Joshua are not thinking about the UK being good enough~ they want to raise the bar. The best way for them to do that is across the pond.


          Yea Joshua can make a lot in the UK now but he can make a lot more from the US than he does now also, which if cultivated properly would not be a paltry sum. It is a huge untapped market for them essential, while they have the UK on lock already. If you ain't growing you are dying~ so to grow they need Wilder and the US (they could go China but that is probably more difficult).

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          • #35
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
            I am sure Hearn and Joshua are not thinking about the UK being good enough~ they want to raise the bar. The best way for them to do that is across the pond.


            Yea Joshua can make a lot in the UK now but he can make a lot more from the US than he does now also, which if cultivated properly would not be a paltry sum. It is a huge untapped market for them essential, while they have the UK on lock already. If you ain't growing you are dying~ so to grow they need Wilder and the US (they could go China but that is probably more difficult).
            If AJ does break the American market it will be down to him, not down to Wilder.

            If Wilder was going to be a big money fighter, it would have already happened. And it hasn't. There isn't anyone else besides AJ that would make Wilder more money than he's earning now. So any interest in the states would be down to AJ, not Deontay.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
              If AJ does break the American market it will be down to him, not down to Wilder.

              If Wilder was going to be a big money fighter, it would have already happened. And it hasn't. There isn't anyone else besides AJ that would make Wilder more money than he's earning now. So any interest in the states would be down to AJ, not Deontay.
              Well yea it is down to Joshua because he would have to beat Wilder, for Joshua to get over in the US Wilder would be the stepping stone to greater things.

              Without Wilder getting over in the US is much more difficult for him.

              To be a big money fighter you need big money fights he had a big money fight lined up against Povetkin we all know what went down there, and then him in Fury were talking about facing each pother then he never fought again. Now Joshua is not fighting him in what is the biggest fight he could make.

              Not like he has had a ton of big competition available to him because he was tied up with that Povetkin ordeal and then injury resulting from the stay busy fight and Wlad was tied up with Fury for a long ass time and the rematch that never came off.

              I think that fight is much bigger and meaningful in the US that anybody realizes because it will capture imaginations , and who wins will be really big.


              So if Wilder is such a clown Joshua should just get the job done right and make even more money from now on because right now Wilder brings value to the table.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                Well yea it is down to Joshua because he would have to beat Wilder, for Joshua to get over in the US Wilder would be the stepping stone to greater things.

                Without Wilder getting over in the US is much more difficult for him.

                To be a big money fighter you need big money fights he had a big money fight lined up against Povetkin we all know what went down there, and then him in Fury were talking about facing each pother then he never fought again. Now Joshua is not fighting him in what is the biggest fight he could make.

                Not like he has had a ton of big competition available to him because he was tied up with that Povetkin ordeal and then injury resulting from the stay busy fight and Wlad was tied up with Fury for a long ass time and the rematch that never came off.

                I think that fight is much bigger and meaningful in the US that anybody realizes because it will capture imaginations , and who wins will be really big.


                So if Wilder is such a clown Joshua should just get the job done right and make even more money from now on because right now Wilder brings value to the table.
                I have no idea why you're bringing up Povetkin as that had nothing to do with the American market. Povetkins side won the purse-bid to have the fight in Russia. If Wilder was worth anything, wouldn't they have won the purse-bid?

                So AJ and Wilder will be big in the states because you think so? No guarantees or anything? Oh right.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                  I have no idea why you're bringing up Povetkin as that had nothing to do with the American market. Povetkins side won the purse-bid to have the fight in Russia. If Wilder was worth anything, wouldn't they have won the purse-bid?

                  So AJ and Wilder will be big in the states because you think so? No guarantees or anything? Oh right.
                  It was a big money fight~ that would have propelled him to more big money fights. If Joshua end up in a purse bid with Povetkin's people he is probably fighting in Russia too so does that make him less of a star?

                  You don't think that fight will be big in the US please explain why? American are suckers for big athlete and guys who can punch, which fits both guys and both guys speak English so it is an easy sell. I don't get why anyone thinks otherwise about that fight~

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                    It was a big money fight~ that would have propelled him to more big money fights. If Joshua end up in a purse bid with Povetkin's people he is probably fighting in Russia too so does that make him less of a star?

                    You don't think that fight will be big in the US please explain why? American are suckers for big athlete and guys who can punch, which fits both guys and both guys speak English so it is an easy sell. I don't get why anyone thinks otherwise about that fight~
                    I very much doubt they'd win a purse-bid with Joshua. They over-spent for the Wlad fight years ago and got their fingers burned. Can't see it happening again.

                    I'm not saying it wouldn't be a big fight. I'm saying it doesn't make as much money as it would in the UK, and that Wilder doesn't bring much to the table. Which is true.

                    Any interest in the states would pretty much be all down to AJ. Not because Deontay is involved.

                    If Wilders side can make some guarantees to have the fight in the states, then i'm sure Hearn would go for that. But they're just not going to take a big risk having it there because a few people on a forum say it would sell. They need guarantees, and they haven't got that.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                      I very much doubt they'd win a purse-bid with Joshua. They over-spent for the Wlad fight years ago and got their fingers burned. Can't see it happening again.

                      I'm not saying it wouldn't be a big fight. I'm saying it doesn't make as much money as it would in the UK, and that Wilder doesn't bring much to the table. Which is true.

                      Any interest in the states would pretty much be all down to AJ. Not because Deontay is involved.

                      If Wilders side can make some guarantees to have the fight in the states, then i'm sure Hearn would go for that. But they're just not going to take a big risk having it there because a few people on a forum say it would sell. They need guarantees, and they haven't got that.
                      They are Russian they don't care about turning a profit it is about prestige. You know ***** would have their back as well just to make sure they were ok. Hearn has deep pockets but he is a true capitalist he needs to make money, those Russian oligarchs operate a bit different especially if Mr. ***** wants them to do something (especially in terms of sport).

                      The interest is because they would be fighting each other, Wilder is better known and been on TV a ton so any boxing fan in the US pretty much knows him and he can be shown to casual fans because he has hurt people badly in the ring so it is easy to understand why he is a dangerous man. Joshua he has been on TV too and he is more highly regarded overall in the boxing world he has a nice reel that can show you why he is a dangerous mana swell.

                      Two top guys that are both dangerous large men in the ring is not something that is hard to sell in the US. It has to do with both of them so it is not down to just Joshua because Wilder will play his part to and brings stuff to the table that Joshua does actually needs.

                      They really can't do it without each other in the US. Fury could get in the mix at some point but at best he is aways off and should be the guy to come in after the dust settles from a Joshua-Wilder showdown.
                      Last edited by The Gambler1981; 11-29-2017, 06:14 PM.

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