to reiterate a point about lil g

[satiev1]

Curt Henning and Floyd Mask are two ****sexuals posters who are clearly insane.

[Real King Kong]

One more time, since you don't get it.

Ward didn't send the offer.

Ward's promoter sent the offer.

RocNation communicated by email with Loeffler, Golovkin's promoter.

Golovkin and his promoter TURNED DOWN THE OFFER THEY GOT FROM ROCNATION IN A HALF HOUR.

This was part of the response:

"If the pay-per-view for the Lemieux fight is what we think it should be, Gennady would deserve more than 50% against Ward, considering Ward has barely fought outside of California," Loeffler said. "So it’s unreasonable to ask us to commit to that right now."

Loeffler said his emailed reply to Ward’s camp was that if Ward was still at 168 pounds in early 2017, Golovkin would be pleased to consider the bout at that point.


This was in 2015. That's an official duck by any standard.

Of course we know that PPV did anywhere between a high of 150K and a low of 97K so I guess G wasn't the star Loeffler thought he was.

There was no further negotiation because they flat out did not want to fight Ward.

Period.

So they obviously weren't interested in a fight down the road, but ended up doing the same type of deal with kovalev. Ggg had a fight signed and a more lucrative option afterward...no doubt they're gonna try to get the cotto vs Canelo winner instead of tying ggg up with a ward fight after another interim fight. I guess ward saying he'd only fight him at 175 was showing interest in making the fight too. Ward's incessant need to be in control hampered this fight just as much as ggg's team not showing much interest. If the fight was lucrative and both parties were serious about making the fight and not just posturing, then maybe we would have seen it.

[TonyGe]

One more time, since you don't get it.

Ward didn't send the offer.

Ward's promoter sent the offer.

RocNation communicated by email with Loeffler, Golovkin's promoter.

Golovkin and his promoter TURNED DOWN THE OFFER THEY GOT FROM ROCNATION IN A HALF HOUR.

This was part of the response:

"If the pay-per-view for the Lemieux fight is what we think it should be, Gennady would deserve more than 50% against Ward, considering Ward has barely fought outside of California," Loeffler said. "So it’s unreasonable to ask us to commit to that right now."

Loeffler said his emailed reply to Ward’s camp was that if Ward was still at 168 pounds in early 2017, Golovkin would be pleased to consider the bout at that point.


This was in 2015. That's an official duck by any standard.

Of course we know that PPV did anywhere between a high of 150K and a low of 97K so I guess G wasn't the star Loeffler thought he was.

There was no further negotiation because they flat out did not want to fight Ward.

Period.

Your conclusion that it's a duck because they can make more money fighting someone else makes no sense. The PPV numbers for that fight was 150k with a good live gate. Kovalev Ward one drew 160k.
Ward simply can't draw PPV numbers. So why fight Ward and throw a monkey wrench into unification and a potential fight with the winner of Cotto Canelo. Financially and career wise it makes no sense.

[Curt Henning]

We're pathetic slugs and your a loser idiot so what else is new. Why did you bother with the long preamble. Just post the punch line which is always the same and save everyone the bother of reading your drivel.

when you understand the difference between your and you're...let me know dunce

[TonyGe]

when you understand the difference between your and you're...let me know dunce

Thanks for the critique.
We're pathetic slugs and you're a loser idiot so what else is new. Why did you bother with the long preamble. Just post the punch line which is always the same and save everyone the bother of reading your drivel.
Better???

[Curt Henning]

So they obviously weren't interested in a fight down the road, but ended up doing the same type of deal with kovalev. Ggg had a fight signed and a more lucrative option afterward...no doubt they're gonna try to get the cotto vs Canelo winner instead of tying ggg up with a ward fight after another interim fight. I guess ward saying he'd only fight him at 175 was showing interest in making the fight too. Ward's incessant need to be in control hampered this fight just as much as ggg's team not showing much interest. If the fight was lucrative and both parties were serious about making the fight and not just posturing, then maybe we would have seen it.

lolol...when wards people contacted k2 it was about a fight at 168..not 175...but you mugs keep making up stories to fit the agenda and blame ward too

you guys can keep telling us how golovkin had a more lucrative fight on the horizon so hed be ****** to fight ward and ruin that....but you all screamed about fighting for legacy and to see who the best is when canelo was being chased by golovkin..now all of the sudden when golovkin needs an excuse to duck a tough fight its ok to make smart business moves? lol....its never ok to do that unless it favors golovkin or golovkin is doing it...

[Curt Henning]

you golovkin superfans are too dumb and blind to understand your own hypocrisy...u guys claimed for years money didnt matter and alll that crap....till it benefits golovkin and excuses his duck...this is why people think u are collectively a joke

[kafkod]

lolol...when wards people contacted k2 it was about a fight at 168..not 175...but you mugs keep making up stories to fit the agenda and blame ward too

you guys can keep telling us how golovkin had a more lucrative fight on the horizon so hed be ****** to fight ward and ruin that....but you all screamed about fighting for legacy and to see who the best is when canelo was being chased by golovkin..now all of the sudden when golovkin needs an excuse to duck a tough fight its ok to make smart business moves? lol....its never ok to do that unless it favors golovkin or golovkin is doing it...

Have GGG and Ward ever fought in the same division?

Has Ward ever been GGG's mando?

Has GGG ever vacated a world title to avoid fighting Andre Ward, or anybody else?

[kafkod]

you golovkin superfans are too dumb and blind to understand your own hypocrisy...u guys claimed for years money didnt matter and alll that crap....till it benefits golovkin and excuses his duck...this is why people think u are collectively a joke

So why are you always getting worked up and angry about it?

[Real King Kong]

lolol...when wards people contacted k2 it was about a fight at 168..not 175...but you mugs keep making up stories to fit the agenda and blame ward too

you guys can keep telling us how golovkin had a more lucrative fight on the horizon so hed be ****** to fight ward and ruin that....but you all screamed about fighting for legacy and to see who the best is when canelo was being chased by golovkin..now all of the sudden when golovkin needs an excuse to duck a tough fight its ok to make smart business moves? lol....its never ok to do that unless it favors golovkin or golovkin is doing it...

the fact that ward said 175 a year or so after the first "offer" really shows ward's interest in making the fight...guess he suddenly couldn't make 168.

ggg had a fight signed and a better option to chase, that is just fact. the difference between ward/ggg and ggg/canelo, is that canelo was in the same division calling himself champion...ggg needed to move to another division to make the ward fight.

I don't think either side was very serious about making the fight. Loffler overestimated ggg's worth and felt ward didn't offer the right reward for the risk and proceeded to make **** fights while chasing canelo. ward's team made an offer when ggg had a fight already signed then passive aggressively went to the media saying ggg was scared when the offer was turned down...not to mention requiring ggg to make all the concessions to get the fight done. these aren't the actions of 2 sides serious about making a fight...but it doesn't surprise me, cuz I don't think the fight was that lucrative to begin with.