Comments Thread For: Hearn To Parker: Joshua Has Glass Jaw? Then Jump on This Fight!

[jonnyc420]

It was the old withered shell of wlad that he fought.

That "shell" still far better then anything the 2 place holders have ever seen.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Purse splits are decided by how much money you bring in. Showtime numbers and all that other crap is irrelevant. Mega draw, big draw, or medium draw it's still the same.

I made a thread asking to name a fighter that gave an opponent that isn't 1/10 of the draw he is 35%+. Can you name one? I won't hold my breath.

You're saying those fighters got away with it because they were meg draws, so you should be able to name some fighters to answer my question if that is the case.

Wilder is a bigger draw in America than AJ is. So in that case since the fight will more than likely be carried on PPV in America, then that means AJ should get less than 35% of what ever is sold in America. Including PPV, Closed circuit, merchandise, etc... Correct?

[Fabes88]

Hearn just pay the man.

He is. 5x his biggest purse.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

"He Doesn't rule boxing, he doesn't set the trend, people aren't moving up in weight, or draining down in weight just for a small piece of the AJ pie. "

Sorry but this quote right here has got to be one of the ******est ones ive ever seen. Once again B Scene doesn't disappoint.


And you do realise Joshua is a HW right that fights above 240 but fighters are going to GAIN weight ? How many sub 200 pounders do you think would last in the HW division let alone against AJ ? lol Fighters are going to CUT weight as well?

Why be so dim? It was obviously to make a point. To show the lengths that fighters would go for a bout against someone like Mayweather which is not comparable to AJ. If I have to explain, maybe your the one who post's ******ity. The point is Fighters risk their careers, even put them on hold just for the possibility, that they would have a chance to fight Mayweather. There is not a single fighter who would do that for a shot at AJ. Even if AJ was in a position for fighters to move up or weight drain, they wouldn't do it for a shot at AJ. Do you understand now? Mayweather, Pac, Canelo, Cotto, biggest draws in BOXING. AJ biggest heavyweight draw in Europe.

[MDPopescu]

Wilder is a bigger draw in America than AJ is. So in that case since the fight will more than likely be carried on PPV in America, then that means AJ should get less than 35% of what ever is sold in America. Including PPV, Closed circuit, merchandise, etc... Correct?

Povetkin is a bigger draw in Russia than AJ is. So in that case... what PPV power Povetkin holds in Russia?...

[Deus]

Wilder is a bigger draw in America than AJ is. So in that case since the fight will more than likely be carried on PPV in America, then that means AJ should get less than 35% of what ever is sold in America. Including PPV, Closed circuit, merchandise, etc... Correct?

At least try to make your bias slightly less obvious because your comparisons are simply not comparable.

Wilder is a bigger draw than Joshua in the US so should expect to get more of the US pie in a fight with Joshua (I would certainly expect that at a very minimum Wilder would get 50% of the US pie when Wilder and Joshua fight) but whether Wilder is so big a draw in comparison to Joshua that he should be getting 65% is debatable.

On the other hand Joshua is a huge draw in comparison to Parker and thus should get the lion's share.

It's really, really simple. The more money you generate = the more money you deserve.

[352]

Parker this, Whyte that...blah, blah, ****in' blah...

All I know is...Team Joshua FEARS Deontay Wilder...and they should.

They will either duck him or get wrecked by him...there's no way out.

You KNOW this, how? What a pile of bull****. Wilder is the one running away. If not, he would have already agreed to what has been put on the table. He wants far more than he is worth because he knows AJ is the first proper opponent he will have faced - and the one who can terminate his career. He is LESS THAN a B side in terms of fan base, revenue raising potential, Worldwide recognition. He has a big, big mouth and, just like Parker, expects to gorge himself on AJ's money. It's a joke. AJ will overpay these fools, in any event. It seems, however, that will not be enough for either of them. Perhaps, the fight that needs to be made, in order to prove the commercial values of these fighters is Parker v Wilder. Parker fought in front of 8,000 fans last time (most of whom, I suspect, were there for Hughie Fury.) Wilder earned $1.4m for the Stiverne fight. He turned down approximately $3.8m on offer for fighting Whyte - by FAR the biggest payday he would have earned, to date. Parker also received around $1.4m for the Fury fight. These two are simply not big draws in the World of boxing. Joshua earned $14m for the Takam fight and around $20m for the Klitschko fight. HE brings the numbers. HE brings the revenue. Why should he not be paid significantly more than either Parker or Wilder, who, simply, don't measure up, commercially? It would be fair enough for Eddie Hearn to offer AJ's opponents a set purse, now, since NEITHER Wilder, nor Parker seem willing, through their promoters, to make AJ any kind of acceptable offer (or any offer at all.) If Wilder's camp refuses to accept more money than he has ever made before, in order for the chance to unify the belts, then it is HE, not AJ, who is running scared. Same goes for Parker. IF these guys are as good as they claim to be - and AJ is as flawed as they state, they should be biting Eddie Hearn's hand off to make the fights, win the belts and, thereby, enhance their commercial value moving forward. If not, then they should fight each other, for probable peanuts, while AJ prepares for his biggest mission, an eventual fight with Tyson Fury.

[jackblack008]

this makes sense. Wilder vs whyte on Joshua vs Parker card. both winners the collide in sumer

[sotgoda]

At least try to make your bias slightly less obvious because your comparisons are simply not comparable.

Wilder is a bigger draw than Joshua in the US so should expect to get more of the US pie in a fight with Joshua (I would certainly expect that at a very minimum Wilder would get 50% of the US pie when Wilder and Joshua fight) but whether Wilder is so big a draw in comparison to Joshua that he should be getting 65% is debatable.

On the other hand Joshua is a huge draw in comparison to Parker and thus should get the lion's share.

It's really, really simple. The more money you generate = the more money you deserve.

Deus, you see you are the one showing the bias here. For the US, you are saying Wilder should make a minimum of 50%. So, is AJ worth close to 50% in the US? What everyone is asking for is fairness in the process. You cannot say AJ brings more business into the US. He doesn't. This is the reason why I provided a model for breaking things down in a considerably fair way.

[Deus]

Deus, you see you are the one showing the bias here. For the US, you are saying Wilder should make a minimum of 50%. So, is AJ worth close to 50% in the US?[1] What everyone is asking for is fairness in the process. You cannot say AJ brings more business into the US. He doesn't. [2] This is the reason why I provided a model for breaking things down in a considerably fair way.

[1]I don't know how much AJ is worth in the US to be exact... that is exactly why I said that Wilder is worth at the very minimum of 50%. If you want to twist that into me supposedly saying that Joshua deserves close to 50% in the US than go ahead, but don't try and pretend that's me showing bias...

[2] Where did I say he did? In fact my exact words were Wilder is a bigger draw than Joshua in the US.

My entire response to KnickTillDeath was in relation to the notion that draw = 65% of a split and that that should be applied as a blanket rule, hence my final line:

it's really, really simple. The more money you generate = the more money you deserve.

If Wilder generates a whole lot more cash in the US than Joshua then he deserves the lion's share of the US cash, in the same way that Joshua deserves the lion's share of the UK cash. How is that biased?