Comments Thread For: Hearn To Parker: Joshua Has Glass Jaw? Then Jump on This Fight!

[keith_head]

What does he bring to the table that, at least could grow the pie bigger than Joshua was able to get it with Pulev/Takam?

I'm not sure why you can't answer this question yourself:

- The WBO belt, making it a unification.
- Credibility as an opponent. Pulev is Wlad's leftovers, Takam was Parker himself's leftovers (although the fight was competitive). Even Povetkin was beaten by Wlad.

[Scipio2009]

AJ has no value in the US. His only value is in the UK, maybe Nigeria if you will like to add that. None at all in the US. On the Parker item, I think the intrinsic factors justify 35% at minimum.

Based on what?

There's enough US value in AJ that Showtime came aboard, and he's been able to draw solid audiences for his matinee shows, with Showtime staying in the AJ business for a while.

Was just in a Macy's and saw a big cutout of Anthony Joshua over the athletic performance section for Under Armour (so there's the added benefit of a quality extra sponsor for the fight), ESPN already respects his hustle, and that's before he does the full media rounds in the US.

Don't let your hate cloud the conversation.

Beyond that, just because you want to "feel" that Parker should get 35% of the pot does nothing to actually fill in the reality that going to "feeling" makes it absolutely clear that you're spitting into the wind.

[Scipio2009]

Beats me why you feel Martin as a champ should be paid more than Parker who is a champ to travel.

Because the Anthony Joshua that fought Charles Martin had just gotten into the IBF's ratings, and his camp was looking to 1)get Joshua a title fight that he was easily three fights away from being mandated for and 2)having the champion travel to the UK for the fight.

That's no longer the case.

It's now champ vs champ, with the traveling champ not bringing hardly anything more than his camp and belt with him.

There's no reason to overpay Parker at this point, and everyone knows this except Parker fans.

Parker has made two title defenses, Joshua has made 4, and Wilder has made six.

[Scipio2009]

Joshua has more value in the US than Wilder does in the UK. Let Wilder keep the US money and Joshua keep the UK i'm sure Hearn would jump at the chance. Wilder would make 3 or 4 mil tops.

Wilder isn't worth **** anywhere.

Having the fight at MGM Resorts (T-Mobile Arena plus closed circuit across the rest of the MGM Resorts properties) trumps anything you could get from Wembley, so I doubt Hearn goes for that deal.

Nice try

[Robbie Barrett]

Having the fight at MGM Resorts (T-Mobile Arena plus closed circuit across the rest of the MGM Resorts properties) trumps anything you could get from Wembley, so I doubt Hearn goes for that deal.

Nice try

The fight isn't happening in America. The casinos aren't going to pay 10+ mil for a fight where the fighters aren't even draws in America. Get real.

[Scipio2009]

I'm not sure why you can't answer this question yourself:

- The WBO belt, making it a unification.
- Credibility as an opponent. Pulev is Wlad's leftovers, Takam was Parker himself's leftovers (although the fight was competitive). Even Povetkin was beaten by Wlad.

Pulev and Povetkin both beat Parker right now, and it's not even all that close. Beyond that, after watching the first fight, it's obvious why they didn't run back the Takam fight either.

Who has Parker beat to claim this "credibility" as an opponent that you so desperately need?

Charles Martin was credible enough to maybe be a fight or two away when he lucked into his shot and Glazkov tore up his knee, and Parker isn't all that much more credible than Martin was if we're honest about it.

[Scipio2009]

The fight isn't happening in America. The casinos aren't going to pay 10+ mil for a fight where the fighters aren't even draws in America. Get real.

No idea where you're from, but the sports world is already looking at that fight, and the general public will likely start really getting behind the fight with the coming interim bouts (assuming both guys perform well).

You add that you're talking about heavyweight boxing, between two English speaking champions, to have the first lineal heavyweight champion since Lennox Lewis, on top of the sports world not really having anything to compete against it after the NBA Finals in June, and the money will be there to cover.

$10m to host the unified undisputed heavyweight Championship fight? The fact that you don't think MGM Resorts would be able to make that back is hilarious.

[keith_head]

Pulev and Povetkin both beat Parker right now, and it's not even all that close. Beyond that, after watching the first fight, it's obvious why they didn't run back the Takam fight either.

Who has Parker beat to claim this "credibility" as an opponent that you so desperately need?

Charles Martin was credible enough to maybe be a fight or two away when he lucked into his shot and Glazkov tore up his knee, and Parker isn't all that much more credible than Martin was if we're honest about it.

Parker, as a 24 year old prospect beat Takam. That's the same guy who was competitive with both Povetkin and Joshua.

Pulev and Parker's records are quite comparable. And it took Pulev 11 rounds to get Dimitrenko out of there while Parker did it in 3. I know I know, styles make fights...

I don't know how you can bring up Charles Martin. What's his best win, Zumbano? GTFO

[Scipio2009]

Parker, as a 24 year old prospect beat Takam. That's the same guy who was competitive with both Povetkin and Joshua.

Pulev and Parker's records are quite comparable. And it took Pulev 11 rounds to get Dimitrenko out of there while Parker did it in 3. I know I know, styles make fights...

I don't know how you can bring up Charles Martin. What's his best win, Zumbano? GTFO

Parker got a dodgy decision over Takam with the scale tipped in his favor. Don't act like you haven't watched the fight.

Takam is a tough man, but to argue that the Joshua and Povetkin were both razor close fights is foolish.

Also, you do know that Parker fought Dimentrenko a full four years after he was flattened by Pulev, right?

[sotgoda]

Based on what?

There's enough US value in AJ that Showtime came aboard, and he's been able to draw solid audiences for his matinee shows, with Showtime staying in the AJ business for a while.

Was just in a Macy's and saw a big cutout of Anthony Joshua over the athletic performance section for Under Armour (so there's the added benefit of a quality extra sponsor for the fight), ESPN already respects his hustle, and that's before he does the full media rounds in the US.

Don't let your hate cloud the conversation.

Beyond that, just because you want to "feel" that Parker should get 35% of the pot does nothing to actually fill in the reality that going to "feeling" makes it absolutely clear that you're spitting into the wind.

There is no hatred for AJ. No one, no matter how good or pitiful, is worth my getting to the point of hatred. So, let's not make stuff up that you don't have any clue about. Most Wilder fans just want to see them fight - the repeated excuses made by AJ, Eddie and his fans are the issues. At the end of the day, whatever numbers these guys agree to, none of it comes to your or my wallet. These are just opinions.

On the value you stated, having an Under Armor picture does not mean he has value to the US audience. There are a lot of athletes that in spite of their pictures, the American audience does not know or care about.

On the rest of your talk about Parker, I'll just skip - no need to go back and forth on stuff that we can't agree on.