Why do people think Thurman vs Spence is a foregone conclusion??

[john l]

Purely because of the power aspect I think both AJ and Wilder would always be dangerous all through out the fight however I think Fury has way too many tools especially for AJ who tends to plod with his feet. Wilder although having relatively fast footwork for a big man also makes a lot of fundamental errors I believe Fury would walk him on to shots and outbox him relatively comfortably. The problem is I'm basing this on Fury before he went off the rails. I fear he may have done too much damage to himself that he may not get back to that level. Only time will tell I guess.

Yea I'm basing this on the best Fury and I also doubt we will see it.But I think Fury gets a little too much credit.Yes like I said he was BORN to fight that stlly of Wlad but looking at his other fights he has ?s.Not just his desire with his weight getting high before.But also his chin and desire to pull out a dogfight.But your right he would be a great name for boxing and he has skills no other fighter his size has.I just don't trust him even if he beat both that he still might go off rails again and were left with none.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Yea I'm basing this on the best Fury and I also doubt we will see it.But I think Fury gets a little too much credit.Yes like I said he was BORN to fight that stlly of Wlad but looking at his other fights he has ?s.Not just his desire with his weight getting high before.But also his chin and desire to pull out a dogfight.But your right he would be a great name for boxing and he has skills no other fighter his size has.I just don't trust him even if he beat both that he still might go off rails again and were left with none.

The hard thing about gauging how good Fury truly is; is that he’s only really been in his peak physical and mental condition once and that was the Wlad fight. And as you say that could’ve just been the perfect style for him and therefore made him look greater than he actually is.
I am also skeptical he’ll be ever manage to get back to that same level again, I’m not even a 100% convinced he’ll even come back. A couple of my friends who aren’t massive boxing fans were asking me about Fury coming back the other day and as I said to them: until he’s under 20 stone I don’t wanna hear him calling guys out and saying he’s going to this and that, cause realistically, it’s still at least months/years away

[john l]

The hard thing about gauging how good Fury truly is; is that he’s only really been in his peak physical and mental condition once and that was the Wlad. I am also skeptical he’ll be ever manage to get back to that again, I’m not even a 100% convinced he’ll even come back. A couple of my friends who aren’t massive boxing fans were asking me about Fury coming back the other day and as I said to them: until he’s under 20 stone I don’t wanna hear him calling guys out and saying he’s going to this and that, cause realistically, it’s still at least months/years away

Good points he has that Buster Douglas smell.And yea its all a joke with him still over 300.

[Sheldon312]

Agree 100% he has beat a lot of very good(not great) fighters.Guys like Postal(who more than a few thought would win)are top fighters after they beat Mattese but then they lose one fight to a guy most people have in top 5 PFP and he is a bum????????????? God I hate that

The Matthyse that Postol fought was shot. Crawford is a tremendously skilled fighter but when I look at his resume, I don't see a Porter, Brook, Danny, or even a Berto on his resume. At 147 he will win some and lose some due to not having certain advantages. Same with Loma.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The Matthyse that Postol fought was shot. Crawford is a tremendously skilled fighter but when I look at his resume, I don't see a Porter, Brook, Danny, or even a Berto on his resume. At 147 he will win some and lose some due to not having certain advantages. Same with Loma.

Postol has a better win on his resume than Porter, Brook and Berto IMO. The way Postol beat Matthysse was very impressive, no one was saying Matthysse was shot before the fight.

[GhostofDempsey]

I agree. I think Thurman doesn't get the respect he deserves. Lot of fans seem to think Spence and Crawford will make easy work of him. Thurman has made adjustments to his style in recent fights. Ever since that body shot by Collazo wobbled him, he seems to favor fighting on the outside and counter-punching. He has the speed, footwork and power to be effective from that range. I don't see an easy night for anyone going up against Thurman. Danny Garcia may arguable have almost as much power as Spence at 147--at least in his left hook, and Thurman handled it well. Garcia is a better counter-puncher than Spence, but I think Spence is better at moving forward and backing up his opponents. Getting them on the ropes and not allowing them room to run.

Spence/Thurman will be a good competitive match up. I slightly favor Spence, but it wouldn't surprise me if Thurman pulls it off.

[The Gambler1981]

Because Spence looks like a wrecking machine at 147 and while Thurman is good and a decent boxer he does not look like the sort of guy that can handle a true wrecking machine.

Maybe Thurman can prove people wrong but he hasn't looked like a monster (or monster slayer) in a long time and has looked like he is treading water while still picking up good wins. The old saying goes if you are not getting better you are getting worse, I (and really anyone) can see Spence is ascending while Thurman has seemingly plateaued.

[LetOutTheCage]

I think Thurman beats Spence, Brook at times was out-boxing Spence but he didnt have the best footwork and his already suspect engine was worsened by Spence throwing a lot of body shots.

Thurman has good footwork as he displayed against Porter and Garcia. I think he has enough Power to that Spence can simply close the gap and bulldoze him and he certainly has the ability to outbox Spence.

[john l]

The Matthyse that Postol fought was shot. Crawford is a tremendously skilled fighter but when I look at his resume, I don't see a Porter, Brook, Danny, or even a Berto on his resume. At 147 he will win some and lose some due to not having certain advantages. Same with Loma.

1st WHO has all them fighters on resume?And Postal AND Indigo are in Berto and Porter class.And he also has other good wins.Beltran(prob juiced)the Gamboa he fought was a good fighter and others.

[Sheldon312]

1st WHO has all them fighters on resume?And Postal AND Indigo are in Berto and Porter class.And he also has other good wins.Beltran(prob juiced)the Gamboa he fought was a good fighter and others.

Porter and Berto are head and shoulders above indongo and postol. Gamboa came up two weight classes so that doesn't scream "impressive"