How could Ortiz duck Napoles? Their paths didn't really cross. Stop making things up. Also he beat Valiant twice stop lying on that one. The losses to Loi were in Italy and considered controversial and the loss to Cruz was in DR and considered controversial. Every blemish on his record was in the opponents hometown and consisted controversial including Locche apart from as an old man to Buchanan. Laguna, Elorde, Ramos, Locche, Brown, Loi are all considered great and are in IBHOF. He owns legit wins over all of them so at least 8 wins over great HOF famers whereas Chavez has zero wins over hall of fame greats just a lopsided loss to Whitaker. You can't tell me ortiz is a bum. That's a heck of a career.
Chavez also lost to Randall twice (yes), Taylor was robbed, Whitaker and others.
I didn't say Tito did great nor did I say a shot LaPorte got robbed. Said a close fight could have gone either way by a point. It wasn't 12-0 like you think.
I love Finito but who did he beat that was great? Stop saying Nene Sanchez is better than Ortiz and Tito. Also what one great did Chavez ever beat? No a washed up Camacho isn't a great fighter and no Rosario isn't better than Ortiz.
I had Estrada and Cuadras both losing 7-5. I was at the fights.
Close fights Mexicans won
Marquez-Pacquaio I, II, III
Marquez-Norwood
Marquez-John (actually wasn't close)
Canelo-Lara, Trout
Castillo-Mayweather
Chavez-Lockridge
Sanchez-Ford
Ramirez-Arguello (by a point but could have gone either way)
So your only one is GGG-Canelo haha like that makes you fair?
Like I said most my favorites are Mexican - JMM, Rafa, Olivares, Sanchez, Zarate, Roman, Zaragoza, Chiquita, Finito, Estrada I'm not sure why you are pointing the finger claiming I'm anti Mexican. Far from it.
The only ignorant one is you. Like liking fighter because of where they are from and hating others for the same reason. It's ignorant.
Uruguay is badass per capita. Better than Mexico period. 2 World Cups and tied most Copa America.
I'm qualified to make comments and debate because of my objectivity and level headed nature you are not because you are a nationalistic cretin that needs a fighter to come from a certain place in order to form an opinion.
Chavez also lost to Randall twice (yes), Taylor was robbed, Whitaker and others.
I didn't say Tito did great nor did I say a shot LaPorte got robbed. Said a close fight could have gone either way by a point. It wasn't 12-0 like you think.
I love Finito but who did he beat that was great? Stop saying Nene Sanchez is better than Ortiz and Tito. Also what one great did Chavez ever beat? No a washed up Camacho isn't a great fighter and no Rosario isn't better than Ortiz.
I had Estrada and Cuadras both losing 7-5. I was at the fights.
Close fights Mexicans won
Marquez-Pacquaio I, II, III
Marquez-Norwood
Marquez-John (actually wasn't close)
Canelo-Lara, Trout
Castillo-Mayweather
Chavez-Lockridge
Sanchez-Ford
Ramirez-Arguello (by a point but could have gone either way)
So your only one is GGG-Canelo haha like that makes you fair?
Like I said most my favorites are Mexican - JMM, Rafa, Olivares, Sanchez, Zarate, Roman, Zaragoza, Chiquita, Finito, Estrada I'm not sure why you are pointing the finger claiming I'm anti Mexican. Far from it.
The only ignorant one is you. Like liking fighter because of where they are from and hating others for the same reason. It's ignorant.
Uruguay is badass per capita. Better than Mexico period. 2 World Cups and tied most Copa America.
I'm qualified to make comments and debate because of my objectivity and level headed nature you are not because you are a nationalistic cretin that needs a fighter to come from a certain place in order to form an opinion.
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