Tommy morrison would be champ in todays era

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  • juggernaut666
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    #51
    Originally posted by john l
    Wilder one punch for one punch hits harder then Joshua.Joshua more complete fighter but that aint gonna matter if he keeps lifting and getting bigger(because he will act lose power)because his stamina is so freaken bad right now.240-245 Joshua hits harder then now.And would include him also as somone who hits as hard if not harder then T Morrison.
    Wilder takes LONGER to knock opposition out , he got an easier guy to hit in Stiverne while Joshua hsd Takam who honestly he was in no rush to K.O . Before those fights the same opponent Molina Joshua K.O 'd far quicker . Joshua has knocked out the harder guys with fewer rnds .

    Edge Joshua !



    Joshua requires more energy bc of style along with being 30 pounds heavier . Hes only gone 7 twice ,10 once and 11 once . Stamina is learned through IN ring experience ,he went 11 with Klitchko not even going past 7 prior to that...thats not bad stamina particularly taking Klitchko punches that knock stamina out of you .
    Last edited by juggernaut666; 11-16-2017, 08:17 PM.

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      #52
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      Wilder takes LONGER to knock opposition out , he got an easier guy to hit in Stiverne while Joshua hsd Takam who honestly he was in no rush to K.O . Before those fights the same opponent Molina Joshua K.O 'd far quicker . Joshua has knocked out the harder guys with fewer rnds .

      Edge Joshua !
      It don't work like that sry.Thats same as sayin just because fighter a beat fighter b and b beat c that fighter a could beat fighter c.Like Frazier gave Ali hell and Foremon killed Frazier but Ali beat Foremon easier(and always would have).Molina had already been beat up bad by Wilder and prob was not the same man that Joshua faced.And if you think Joshua did not try and KO Takum as soon as he could.You really are WAY off.You think with the way he gasses since he got up to 250 he WANTED TO GO ROUNDS really?

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        #53
        Originally posted by john l
        It don't work like that sry.Thats same as sayin just because fighter a beat fighter b and b beat c that fighter a could beat fighter c.Like Frazier gave Ali hell and Foremon killed Frazier but Ali beat Foremon easier(and always would have).Molina had already been beat up bad by Wilder and prob was not the same man that Joshua faced.And if you think Joshua did not try and KO Takum as soon as he could.You really are WAY off.You think with the way he gasses since he got up to 250 he WANTED TO GO ROUNDS really?
        It does work like bc if you are k.o ing Harder to k.o guys with less punches thats a more power indication . Of course that ONE aspect ,Joshua also has a hefty weight ,accuracy ,advantage ,hes also heavy handed ,Wilder is not . Thats why he has to wind up on his punches with poor technique .

        Frazier was a 205 fighter ,past his best anyway by that Foreman fight ,he also had no Ali chin . Nothing to do with 2 SHW comparisons here .

        Joshua requires more energy bc of style along with being 30 pounds heavier . Hes only gone 7 twice ,10 once and 11 once . Stamina is learned through IN ring experience ,he went 11 with Klitchko not even going past 7 prior to that...thats not bad stamina particularly taking Klitchko punches that knock stamina out of you.

        Joshua obviously felt no danger by Takam so like he said he would and DID he went the 10 rnds ,even Tyson carried some guys to get the rnds in .Not many guys are going to be taking those punches and Wilder is one of them.
        Last edited by juggernaut666; 11-16-2017, 08:28 PM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          It does work like bc if you are k.o ing Harder to k.o guys with less punches thats a more power indication . Of course that ONE aspect ,Joshua also has a hefty weight ,accuracy ,advantage ,hes also heavy handed ,Wilder is not . Thats why he has to wind up on his punches with poor technique .

          Frazier was a 205 fighter ,past his best anyway by that Foreman fight ,he also had no Ali chin . Nothing to do with 2 SHW comparisons here .

          Joshua requires more energy bc of style along with being 30 pounds heavier . Hes only gone 7 twice ,10 once and 11 once . Stamina is learned through IN ring experience ,he went 11 with Klitchko not even going past 7 prior to that...thats not bad stamina particularly taking Klitchko punches that knock stamina out of you.

          Joshua obviously felt no danger by Takam so like he said he would and DID he went the 10 rnds ,even Tyson carried some guys to get the rnds in .Not many guys are going to be taking those punches and Wilder is one of them.
          he has had HALF the fights and Joshua tried to get him out soon as he could.And if you don't know that then there is no use going forward.And Joshua has a better punch varity so they they cant just try and watch out for ST8 RIGHT(which now is being hid by a better jab).Wilders st8 right is harder then any ONE punch Joshua throws. good night

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            #55
            Originally posted by john l
            he has had HALF the fights and Joshua tried to get him out soon as he could.And if you don't know that then there is no use going forward.And Joshua has a better punch varity so they they cant just try and watch out for ST8 RIGHT(which now is being hid by a better jab).Wilders st8 right is harder then any ONE punch Joshua throws. good night
            Julian jackson was the harder puncher than g man.

            But they both hit damn hard and g man was the better boxer and whooped him

            Same will happen here

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              #56
              Originally posted by Boxnation fan
              Also, David Tua, Ike Ibeabuchi, Razor Ruddock, Ray Mercer.

              Hell...even a peak 1980 version of Gerry Cooney would clean up this division.
              I agree 100% with this, good post.

              As for Tommy, he was fun to watch, had decent skills and a cash money power shot. His only problem was getting careless, sometimes early in a fight. That's how Mercer took him apart, if you watch the whole bout you can see they BOTH were putting it to each other. Tommy was tearing up the body then going upstairs, Mercer firing back every time. It's just that round he got careless, tried to pressure Mercer, and Ray took advantage of his forgetting head movement.

              I don't know if that would be a factor and if the heavies today are as smart as Mercer was in the ring.

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                #57
                Originally posted by kiDynamite92
                Wilder and Joshua haven't done anything to consider them being as capable as Lewis.
                You didn't read what I wrote. Try again.

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                  #58
                  tua would have been the man in the era. pure dominance.

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                  • low blows
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by john l
                    like all time??? I would not go anywhere near that far.And I think he had a great left hook. But think could name ten better punchers in heavys since say the 70s
                    Not off of his left hook which is one of the greatest ever.

                    As for the original assertion he won a paper belt and would blow out Charles Martin, who is probably the worst paper champion of all time. But even mediocre guys like Parker could beat him because of Morrison's stamina issues.

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                      #60
                      Obvious gear heads are passing the tests in today's era. So if his team were to get the latest designer PED's he would pass the tests. There is no way this era is cleaner than the 90's.

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