Wil RIGO Get CREDIT moving up TWO Classes For P4P Supremacy?

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  • Randall Cunning
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    #11
    Originally posted by Floyd's Mask
    You can troll the age, but if that were the case, then the eye test alone tells you that tis Cuban is the most fluid, powerful, and most flexible boxer to ever live.

    The truth is that Rigo is daring to be great. He isn’t very smart to agree, and he even knows this is a risky fight. He’s acknowledging it by going up two classes. He didn’t have to. In the end at least we as fans witnessed it.

    Loma didnt want this fight.
    Of course Lomachenko wants this fight, nothing hes ever done suggests otherwise. He wants to fight the best. Its on Arum for failing to deliver them for him

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    • Lester Tutor
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      #12
      Originally posted by Randall Cunning
      Of course Lomachenko wants this fight, nothing hes ever done suggests otherwise. He wants to fight the best. Its on Arum for failing to deliver them for him
      well “wanting” this fight now seems rather practical when industry helped put this fight on blast. Both put up polls on their social media accounts, and Klimas was the main culprit to dismiss this fight, second Loma... perhaps Loma, even though he practices non orthodox ways of training, still was mislead with splits that Arum or Klimas has said.

      The truth is imho, Arum is leaning towards his late years. I think his insecurities are more laxed out now and enjoyed his legacy doing it his way. Also, it was Arum that brought him prestige in the pro arena. Seems like win win situation for Bob

      I just hope that when it’s all said and done Arum and Rigo make peace. Sometimes Bob’s smiling looks genuine, good for him. As long as Steve Kim and Fischer are in range id love to see a 100 pies flying in a venue to their faces. They should be reporting those stadium like video game contests with PCs. Fkn dorks

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      • Tom Cruise
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        #13
        Originally posted by Randall Cunning
        Lomachenko cant be above 138 at 9am the morning of the fight
        Ah ok so basically not then

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        • STREET CLEANER
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          #14
          Rigo should get full credit.

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          • bluepete
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            #15
            Originally posted by Tom Cruise
            Loma shouldnt get that much credit for doing what he is expected to do

            Rigo is old, nit that active and he is coming up 2 classes, when he isnt even big for his own weight class.

            If its even competitive then that would be an L for Loma
            I remember Marlon Starling giving Michael Nunn a run for he's money coming up two weights. Didn't make Nunn a bad fighter, smaller guys when exceptional should be expected to be competitive,especially early. Rigos just too good not to give a good account of himself.

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            • TBear
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              #16
              Anytime a fighter moves up two weight classes naturally we assume he has less to lose. If he loses he lost to a bigger fighter and was supposed to lose. The fighter taking on a smaller fighter he was suppose to beat has more risk.

              Nunn-Starling mentioned here is a good example of this but Starling after losing, dropped back to welterweight and got beat by Maurice Blocker, a fighter he could have beat if dropping weight was not an issue. See Jones-Ruiz/Tarver for an example. Rigo needs to pull this off because if he doesn't, finding the right weight after this will be a challenge(historically speaking).

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              • Squ□redCircle34
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                #17
                Of course, Loma was hyped as this pound for pound number 1 talent and top 5 pound for pound for beating Gary "Fights Once a year" Russell Jr, Nicholas "I should fire my manager" Walters, and Rocky "I should've lost to Salido" Martinez!

                Rigo's win over a top 5 pound for pound fighter and Fighter of The Year and KO of the year candidate as the underdog against Donaire is STILL much better than anything that Loma has done!

                Rigo i think will pull it off and he would be pound for pound number 1!

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                • Tom Cruise
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TBear
                  Anytime a fighter moves up two weight classes naturally we assume he has less to lose. If he loses he lost to a bigger fighter and was supposed to lose. The fighter taking on a smaller fighter he was suppose to beat has more risk.

                  Nunn-Starling mentioned here is a good example of this but Starling after losing, dropped back to welterweight and got beat by Maurice Blocker, a fighter he could have beat if dropping weight was not an issue. See Jones-Ruiz/Tarver for an example. Rigo needs to pull this off because if he doesn't, finding the right weight after this will be a challenge(historically speaking).
                  It depends how much weight you put on in going up. If Rigo reaches the late 120's he can still comfortably make 126, where there are a few guys that arent big for the weight (LSC, Frampton, Quigg who have all stepped up from 122).

                  I think its likely that the next round of WBSS will feature the FW's and Rigo has been pretty vocal about wanting to join.

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                  • Tom Cruise
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by bluepete
                    I remember Marlon Starling giving Michael Nunn a run for he's money coming up two weights. Didn't make Nunn a bad fighter, smaller guys when exceptional should be expected to be competitive,especially early. Rigos just too good not to give a good account of himself.
                    Sure but would you say that was a better look for Starling or Nunn that it was competitive? Starling was also a good sized WW who had flirted with the weight bove a few times. Rigo is a small 122lber. 126 could be a serious stretch even if he was prime.

                    To go up 2 modern weights, or 1 old timey weight, and in your first fight beat someone that good in their prime, when you are most likely not in yours, would be unreal. How many in history have done it? Its a short list.

                    Loma needs to be winning this comfortably. Which I think he will even if it 'looks' competitive early. I think he is just gonna swarm all over Rigo tbh. Ive seen him fight Cubans in the Ams, admittedly not Rigo's level, and thats how he fights them. High guard, head movement, lots of pivoting around the pocket, high volume body shots and hooks. Like a Mike Tyson style. With a size advantage like he has how is Rigo gonna deal with that? He likely land counters but how much are they gonna affect Loma? A big part part of Rigo's style is whipping his opponents into submission and making them not want to press the attack. His shots need to hurt for that to work.

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                    • Lomadeaux
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                      #20
                      Rigo will get great credit if he beats Loma, which I think even coming up two classes will be very difficult to beat him. They are both my two favorite current fighters (hence the name). Such a huge fight.

                      It's unfortunate a lot of people don't know who these guys are. They're missing out on some beautiful art.

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