If Wlad is a great win for Joshua then Oscar,Mosley,Manny were elite wins for floyd
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That why he was favorite and favorite for the Fury rematch too.
Fury never dominated him, it was a lackluster performance from Wlad, so use to being the bigger guy, and sitting back something he was a fool to do against Fury
Wilder was ducking Wlad before Fury and after Fury. If Wilder ducking a guy well past his best, what does that say about him.
Wlads looked very good against Pulev and in the Joshua fight looked great as well.Comment
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Id say all 3 are very good wins, Pacquaio is great (even if he wasnt at his best, he was still P4P top5).
However, you cant ignore the fact that Joshua was pre prime when he fought Klitschko. You could see how inexperienced he was at that level in the first 20 seconds when WLad took the initiative straight away. Joshua did very well to overcome his technical disadvantages and come out on top.Comment
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I'm a Brit and I know this.
Fury did a little bit, Wlad did nothing.
It was the tactics and the gameplan that done him.
For over 10 years he fought the same way, and with Fury he needed to fight to a different tune. Shame it took him to the 12th round to realise this.
Had Fury 9 rounds to 3.
Fury did put on a typical Mayweather performance. Land soft jabs and keep his opponent attack to a minimum.Comment
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Wlad was considered the best in the division, out of his prime still dangerous. Joshua had has 18 fights, was green and this was a huge step up. Joshua took the fight straight away. And knocked Wlad out is style
Mosley was well past his best, been out of the game for a year and a half and was fighting to pay off bills after his ex wife took him to the cleaners. Floyd was in his prime, experienced and heavy favorite going into the fight. Floyd avoided the fight a year earlier. Floyd got a boring pts decision
Oscar was well past his best, doing drug and dressing up in women's underwear. He had one fight in the 3 previous years, and came back for a money fight. Floyd was p4p number 1 and won a majority decision in a boring fight.
Manny was well past his best, was on the decline since 2011 after the Margarito fight and got knocked out by Marquez. Floyd took 6 years to take the fight against the smaller Pacquiao. Pacquiao went into the fight with a shoulder injury. Floyd fought an extremely negative fight, just touching Pacquiao with light jab from distance and hugging him when he got close. Never landed anything of any significance in a boring fight and took a pts decision on the basis of taking Pacquiao out of his game rather than putting the hurt on Pacquiao.
If you think these wins are elite/great then you are not a boxing.
Joshua got people of their feet, excited in a great heavyweight fight, when he went out of his comfort zone and and came away with a victory.
Floyd just brought shame to boxing.
This post here says it all.
You know the wins were mediocre at best when you have to use other fights to support the legitimacy, instead of them just standing on their own merit.
There's gotta be 50 threads trying to save Floyd in this fashion.Comment
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manny was the one who ducked floyd, get your facts straightYeah, that is why Ali, Louis, SRR, Hagler and SRL are rated so highly.
Floyd was a Fraud, ducked, matchmaked at the right time, and used illegal and spoiling tactics to win boring snoozefest fights, as opposed to all those truly great African American fighters above.
floyd then dominated him when they actually foughtComment
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Wrong, mosley was the one who ducked floyd initially
De La Hoya was just about and even past his prime he got robbed in that fight. Close fight, but Oscar deserved the win.
Floyd ducked Mosley since 135, waited him out.
Floyd admits he let the Pac fight "marinate" for five years. So first it was endless excuses that started with false accusations and then he wants us to believe he was a marketing genius who was only trying to make the fight bigger.
If pedman wouldve actually been willing to take drug tests the fight wouldve happened in 2010. Freddie roach even said thisComment

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