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  • soul_survivor
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    #121
    Originally posted by larryxxx.
    Man up to what?
    man up to fighting him

    you bully people on here, claim youll beat them and then do nothing, you tried the same **** with me till I punked you

    so man up or stfu

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    • Larry the boss
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      #122
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      man up to fighting him

      you bully people on here, claim youll beat them and then do nothing, you tried the same **** with me till I punked you

      so man up or stfu
      you punked me??? how?

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      • IboxSouthpaw
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        #123
        God these guys are ugly .. I️ guess I’m down to watch a bum fight .. live stream it

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        • D4thincarnation
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          #124
          Originally posted by New England
          which woudl you rather be, dumb and humble, or the arrogant expert?
          You coming across as quite overbearing.

          You've proven your that you are no need to go on.

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          • D4thincarnation
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            #125
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            He wasn't the favourite against Joshua.

            Ok and Mosley looked pretty good in the Margarito fight aswell.

            Wlad's last 2 fights he fought Jennings and looked lack luster and then lost CLEARLY to Fury then had almost 2 years out the ring.

            The same **** you are critsizing for other fighters.

            Double standard.

            So refresh on on those Odds.
            I was betting on the fight, and both fighters were odds on.

            Was this the same Margarito that was weight drained after he lose about 20lbs in 6 weeks, and the same Margarito that got caught with loaded wraps? A fight over a year and a half before Floyd? Where Mosley had two fights fall through and had been training camp for 6 months?


            Can you also remind me how the bookmakers had the odds in 2009 for Mayweather Pacquiao compared to 2015

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              #126
              Originally posted by Tom Cruise
              I agree the opponents arent a million miles off, but I think you need to take into context Joshua's inexperience. This was his first top 10 opponent and it was past prime ATG in Wlad Klitschko. Mayweather was prime for ODLH and Mosley and he was at a similar stage in his career to Pac when they fought, if not a bit fresher.

              So I think the opponents are comparable, but the scenario of the actual fight favours Joshua's win in terms of how impressive it was.
              I disagree.

              I don't think Floyd was at his peak against Mosley firstly and secondly having an up and down war with that version or Wlad I don't think is overly impressive.

              Although you have a point in regards to his inexperience.

              I wasn't comparing the fights anyway.
              Last edited by IronDanHamza; 11-14-2017, 02:05 AM.

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                #127
                Originally posted by larryxxx.
                Wlad had just got dominated and was out for almost 2 years and was 41

                Mosley was p4p #3 and WBA champ

                Manny was p4p#2 and WBO champ

                Oscar was WBC champ at 154


                so what am i missing here? all were way younger then Wlad and not coming off of dominating losses
                Larry bringing the heat. Great post!

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  So refresh on on those Odds.
                  I was betting on the fight, and both fighters were odds on.

                  Was this the same Margarito that was weight drained after he lose about 20lbs in 6 weeks, and the same Margarito that got caught with loaded wraps? A fight over a year and a half before Floyd? Where Mosley had two fights fall through and had been training camp for 6 months?


                  Can you also remind me how the bookmakers had the odds in 2009 for Mayweather Pacquiao compared to 2015
                  I know for a fact Klitschko wasn't the favourite because when I saw he was the underdog I put money on him.

                  Ok but again that's just highlighting your ridiculous double standard. Mosley didn't fight for a year and a half after destroying "the most feared man on the planet" well Klitschko hadn't fought in LONGER after getting clearly beaten by Tyson Fury. So, yeah.

                  Mosley had 1 fight fall through not two, exactly the same as Wlad when he fought Joshua. Yet again a double standard.

                  Mayweather has always been the betting favourite over Pacquaio.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by larryxxx.
                    Wlad had just got dominated and was out for almost 2 years and was 41

                    Mosley was p4p #3 and WBA champ

                    Manny was p4p#2 and WBO champ

                    Oscar was WBC champ at 154


                    so what am i missing here? all were way younger then Wlad and not coming off of dominating losses
                    Mosley, manny, and OSCAR were waaaay past it when Floyd fought them..so similar

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                    • D4thincarnation
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      I know for a fact Klitschko wasn't the favourite because when I saw he was the underdog I put money on him.

                      Ok but again that's just highlighting your ridiculous double standard. Mosley didn't fight for a year and a half after destroying "the most feared man on the planet" well Klitschko hadn't fought in LONGER after getting clearly beaten by Tyson Fury. So, yeah.

                      Mosley had 1 fight fall through not two, exactly the same as Wlad when he fought Joshua. Yet again a double standard.

                      Mayweather has always been the betting favorite over Pacquaio.
                      "The Most Feared Man on the planet" Mayweather certainly thought so. I see how you skipped over the handwraps stuff before the fight.

                      Also Mosley had lost several of his recent fights. Wlad had gone on the one of the longest unbeaten champion runs in all of boxing history before Fury.

                      Can you remember the odds you got on Klitschko? Obviously the odds in the UK market would not have been as good as somewhere neutral.

                      Didn't Mosley have a fight fall through in October and then Berto in Jan/Feb

                      Do you remember the odds for Pacquiao vs Mayweather in 2009?

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