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  • LOCOMEX89
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    #11
    I will say this in my opinion Oscars point is why doesn't Wilder have the backing of Mike Tyson, Holyfield, or Bowe in the United States? Wilder has great commercial appeal from the skills, the make up, and he conducts himself very well with the press.

    Wilder should be a pay per view star, should have commericals and should be head lining in Las Vegas but he's isn't.

    When it comes to the Joshua vs Wilder situation Wilder is going to have to kind of do what GGG did with Canelo and come to the conclusion that he's a clear B side. Hopefully this doesn't drag out like it did with GGG and Canelo but I would be shocked if it happened in 2018.

    Oscar has a lot of personal issues outside the ring but in the ring he's an hall of famer and is one of the few who has transitioned to an elite promoter.

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    • 285Kid
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      #12
      Who was he going to put him in the ring with Fury, Wlad and Haye?

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      • Earl-Hickey
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        #13
        Originally posted by LOCOMEX89
        I will say this in my opinion Oscars point is why doesn't Wilder have the backing of Mike Tyson, Holyfield, or Bowe in the United States? Wilder has great commercial appeal from the skills, the make up, and he conducts himself very well with the press.

        Wilder should be a pay per view star, should have commericals and should be head lining in Las Vegas but he's isn't.

        When it comes to the Joshua vs Wilder situation Wilder is going to have to kind of do what GGG did with Canelo and come to the conclusion that he's a clear B side. Hopefully this doesn't drag out like it did with GGG and Canelo but I would be shocked if it happened in 2018.

        Oscar has a lot of personal issues outside the ring but in the ring he's an hall of famer and is one of the few who has transitioned to an elite promoter.
        he hasn't ****ing fought anybody!!

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        • Sosay
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          #14
          Oscarina crying about what ifs again.
          I bet he thinks he made Canelo a star.

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          • kushking
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            #15
            Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
            Not true

            Did you see the fans booing when AJ vs Takam was stopped?

            How about after Haye vs Harrison.

            No WAY could you stay protected fighting opposition cherry picked for 7 years and be any kind of "star" in the uk.

            American fans seem to think we will just take anything in the uk but it's actually not true, we will turn on our fighters if they aren't stepping to the mark, win lose or draw.

            Its actually the american fans who will accept anything just so they can chant "usa" over and over, they dont care who the opponent us as long as their guy is winning, but of course the second they lose they jump off the bandwagon.
            First off I have a lot of respect for the UK & I don't think of the UK anything you believe I do. I follow football from all the big 5 leagues of Europe.

            So I regularly converse with fans from the UK & have been there numerous times also,your right that theres plenty of fans whod speak up about cherrypicking.

            But the vast majority (casuals, patriotic types & fanbois) will support whoevers holding belts,& will fill stadiums out of sheer boredom of the usual sports like football even if they're garbage or if they are from other countries & represent UK,& its no real knock on them as they just love Boxing & supporting their own.

            All I'm saying is that Wilder has stepped up repeatedly since he won his belt with a broken hand,hes consistently proven that he's willing to fight anyone anywhere,& hes broken records for most kos consecutively while being screwed over by cheaters repeatedly.

            He was willing to travel to Russia to fight a serious threat,he was willing to fight the divisions version of ggg (ortiz) who was a supposed boogieman. Of course before he won his belt he was fighting bums but since then hes stepped up majorly & I think in the UK hed be huge by now just like AJ. AJ would've had a worse resume than Wilder if wilders resume included the cheating scum that he signed to fight.

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            • BigStomps
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              #16
              Originally posted by Pigeons
              Oscar was too busy drinking and drugging while Richard Schaefer made him into a champion.

              Can someone please name one star that Golden Boy has besides Canelo, who is only popular because he's Mexican and by the way also became popular under Richard Schaefer?
              Can you name me any other star that any other American promoter has?? A real star....
              I'll be waiting for your response...

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              • BigStomps
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                #17
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                Oscar's been running Golden Boy for over two years at this point, going on three years, and has yet to produce a single star under his watch.

                The closest thing he's been able to do to that was the rebuild of David Lemieux and even that's a stretch.
                Well what stars has Al Haymon produced since he took his fighters and left Golden Boy promotions??
                I'll be waiting for your response

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                • Sosay
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                  Not true

                  Did you see the fans booing when AJ vs Takam was stopped?

                  How about after Haye vs Harrison.

                  No WAY could you stay protected fighting opposition cherry picked for 7 years and be any kind of "star" in the uk.

                  American fans seem to think we will just take anything in the uk but it's actually not true, we will turn on our fighters if they aren't stepping to the mark, win lose or draw.

                  Its actually the american fans who will accept anything just so they can chant "usa" over and over, they dont care who the opponent us as long as their guy is winning, but of course the second they lose they jump off the bandwagon.
                  ^^^^^
                  You just described UK boxing. You guys most definitely root for unproven guys all the time.
                  Unless you count stepping up as fighting domestic level guys. The USA doesnt even support our boxers over here. So tell me who got a USA chant. Please advise which UK boxers has these killer resumes from stepping up?

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                  • BigStomps
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pennsauken1
                    Disagree with Oscar, Wilder is a star already
                    Wilder a star?? 😂😂
                    You must not know what a true boxing star is.
                    How many arenas or stadiums has wilder sold out? How many ppv's has he sold??
                    I'll be waiting for your response

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                    • BigStomps
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by sportbuddha
                      Was never going to be long before golden nuts got involved in the conversation.

                      What’s wrong Oscar, you wondering what the hell you are going to do when the Canelo cash flow dries up? You should be worried, you’ve already got a rep for being crooked even amongst the Mexicans and now there are young promoters with more rep for looking after their fighters coming, like Dana and Hearn. TMT has a better stable it also won’t be long before Hatton promotions gets some traction, he’s building a nice little business in the UK and Conor will be wanting some of the promotional action soon.
                      Keep hating you ****** mother****er! It's obvious you don't know shet about boxing!
                      TMT having a better stable u than Golden Boy promotions??? 😂😂😂
                      Yeah, your smoking that Triple D again...
                      Dope, ****, and Dynamite!

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