Comments Thread For: Hearn Details Meeting With Haymon, Finkel About Joshua-Wilder

[Raggamuffin]

Don't care about the Whyte fight but it was a bizarre stance to refuse a high payday instead to fight for a third of the money against an even lower ranked opponent.

You haven't been patient. You been spamming this place with a bunch of threads and posts csalling Joshua a coward and that he's ducker. That's not patience. Sounds like you were wrong on the ducking here and Joshua's intentions. No big deal.

I've been criticizing Joshua for his comments and Hearn as well the same way that you've ridiculously accused Wilder of ducking Whyte when Wilder had a mandatory. But I'm a boxing fan. When and if the fight materializes ill sing a different tune.

You didn't respect the fact that Wilder was going after Joshua. You just ran with the Wilder ducked Whyte comment because you love Joshua. It made me think that you didn't know what the boxing term "duck" meant.

[chrisJS]

I've been criticizing Joshua for his comments and Hearn as well the same way that you've ridiculously accused Wilder of ducking Whyte when Wilder had a mandatory. But I'm a boxing fan. When and if the fight materializes ill sing a different tune.

You didn't respect the fact that Wilder was going after Joshua. You just ran with the Wilder ducked Whyte comment because you love Joshua. It made me think that you didn't know what the boxing term "duck" meant.

Joshua's cool, I don't "love" him. I respect the fact that his resume ****s on Wilder's as do his skills which I don't see as overly special to this point but they are far better than Wilder's.

Never accused Wilder of ducking just said it's strange how he's so adamant that he'd never fight Whyte for $4m but he would for $7m but he would fight 39 other guys for less than $1.1m. It's hard to have faith in a guys intentions when he's been a pro coming up on 10 years and hasn't even fought a C level guy despite being in the driving seat for a while.

[lefthooklead]

Okay, here's what I thinks happening.

Deontay wants too much money to fight AJ, but across two fights Hearn can make the numbers work. Whyte needs a headline fight and can draw some numbers in the UK, he can give Wilder the lions share to put his belt on the line.

He can then line up Wilder vs AJ, with more recognition for Wilder (assuming he beats Whyte) it builds the PPV in Europe, so then Wilder is banking $10m in this fight.

Hearn can't lost on this deal.

Wilder vs Whyte generates him some dollars
Whyte's happy cos he keeps moaning he never gets a shot at a title and if he gets an upset win Hearn has two world champs and a strong upcoming contender (Miller). Plus a grudge match for a title with AJ which would sell massively in Europe.

Hearn can use Whyte vs Wilder to get a Matchroom co-promotion on US TV (again probably a two fight deal), where he's trying to build a name for himself.

If Wilder wins against Whyte, they do bigger numbers in the AJ fight. Wilders happy because he gets c$15m two fight deal.

AJ's happy because he fights for an easy belt like Parkers in the meantime or takes another soft pay day from a someone else.

Before everyone starts ****ing on about ducking and who will win what, I'm not talking about what the fan really wants here, but more about the business behind it that gets the best takings for all those involved.

This is exactly what Eddie Hearn is trying to do. I've said something very similar before. This the perfect plan...for Eddie Hearn.

I don't think Whyte deserves the shot though, not after avoiding the Chisora rematch and instead trying to target Bellew so hard. I'd prefer to see Whyte V Miller for a fun fight instead.

I think Wilder will fight Breazeale, Joshua will fight Parker, then the winner fights in the summer.

Hopefully the Gypsy King comes back though, takes on Joshua in the summer and then the winner gets Wilder.

[Raggamuffin]

Joshua's cool, I don't "love" him. I respect the fact that his resume ****s on Wilder's as do his skills which I don't see as overly special to this point but they are far better than Wilder's.

Never accused Wilder of ducking just said it's strange how he's so adamant that he'd never fight Whyte for $4m but he would for $7m but he would fight 39 other guys for less than $1.1m. It's hard to have faith in a guys intentions when he's been a pro coming up on 10 years and hasn't even fought a C level guy despite being in the driving seat for a while.

As soon as I read your second sentence, i knew that this conversation had to end.

[kafkod]

It wasn't vigilantes. It was James Madison and his deism readings that you guys wrote, that he read. He didn't believe in the supernatural they way that you and Hearn believe in Joshua. Deism is reality. The reality that Wilder could ko Joshua and God remaining indifferent while this happens is why you're scared to see Wilder Joshua right now.

I'll have to sniff some more glue and get back to you later about that .... much later.... a lot of glue ...

[Raggamuffin]

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[sportbuddha]

I don't think Whyte deserves the shot though, not after avoiding the Chisora rematch and instead trying to target Bellew so hard. I'd prefer to see Whyte V Miller for a fun fight instead.

I think Wilder will fight Breazeale, Joshua will fight Parker, then the winner fights in the summer.

Hopefully the Gypsy King comes back though, takes on Joshua in the summer and then the winner gets Wilder.

I agree Whyte doesn't deserve the shot, but he wouldn't be the most undeserving entrant to a title bout, Stiverne this weekend was a great example of that, hate it when a warm body gets a shot just to show up.

I don't disagree with the fight plan you have with one exception, I think Whyte is still in the mix (because he has a good promoter), but he probably has to fight before the others more impressively to line up a Wilder meeting (against Chisora because it'll do bucks in UK)

Wilder after he beats Brezeale, would face Whyte, which adds up to AJ vs Wilder being 3 fights away for Wilder not two, which again seems likely because he could easily fight three times next year because he took no damage this outing.

Despite what Hearn says, I think AJ only fights twice next year Parker in May and Wilder in Oct.

As for Fury, I doubt he'll be back until end of next year, so soonest I think we could see him in title action would be 2019. The license, weight, mental issues, not sure he would be motivated to take 2/3 warm up fights either, something tells me he's going to end up self destructing before he's under the big lights again.

[Robi13]

I’m tired of all the Joshua fans that keep saying Joshua sells and wilder doesn’t. That’s only half true. Yes Joshua sells a lot across the pond in Europe but wilder is know in the states and he is the US champ! This fight does the most numbers in Vegas. Period. With that said. I say 70-30 split in favor of Joshua if fight is in England, and 60-40 in favor of Joshua if it’s in Vegas where it should be

[Larry the boss]

Ok this is great news, lets continue moving forward on this

[WallabeeKing]

Hahahahaha @ everybody tapping Wilder's pockets. 15% of everything goes to Haymon, manager probably gets another 10. Not to mention trainer, team, etc.. Damn man.