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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #31
    Originally posted by Krucial
    1. floyd, bcuz he has literally mastered boxing, as far the sweet science goes (hit and dont be hit)

    2. jones jr, freak talents, much like ali, when his name was cassius clay, didnt need the fundamental defense to avoid punches bcuz he was so quick, and to have that kinda power as well was superNatural.

    3. whitaker, defensive genius, maybe the most elusive fighter i ever seen. its close though
    Originally posted by Krucial
    i dont know if leonard couldve boxed with floyd tbh, hearns outboxed ray leonard easily until ray turned up the pressure on him after he was gassing. the thing with floyd is, he doesnt gas and he doesnt lose focus enuff to be hit with a bomb. (exept for mosley, corley, which floyds chin prevailed against)

    now with tommy hearns, idk. floyd easily destroyed taller fighters in his career. i think he wouldve won 12 rds vs hearns, bcuz due to hearns dangerous right straight hand, floyd wouldnt of been so aggressive all the way thru. but floyd has been known to walk guys down wen he gets them broken down and on the inside of em, which is the best way to beat hearns. (tire him out and stalk him)
    Floyd-SRL would arguably be a 50-50 fight IMO, I'd favour Ray though tbh. Ray could 100% box with Floyd, the reason Hearns was outboxung him was because of his freakish physical advantage's Floyd doesn't have them. There is a case that Floyd's timing could be a factor and he could beat Leonard to the punch similiarily to how Duran did in the first fight, but SRL was a very flat footed in the first fight. If SRL was to utilise his footwork and movement, Floyd is not a
    proficient enough front foot fighter to be able to walk Leonard down IMO.
    If Floyd was to fight Hearns, I don't believe he has the physical tools to win, Hearns ain't a guy you can just walk down because of the freakish power he carried, Floyds chin is legit but against a guy as powerful as Hearns it kinda doesn't matter, Duran's chin was legit but as a smaller guy fighting Hearns he got brutally iced inside 2. I also don't believe Floyd would have the power to stop Hearns either if he gassed,, pretty boy Floyd was a beast down at 130 but the power never really translated up to 147.

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    • Krucial
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      #32
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      Floyd-SRL would arguably be a 50-50 fight IMO, I'd favour Ray though tbh. Ray could 100% box with Floyd, the reason Hearns was outboxung him was because of his freakish physical advantage's Floyd doesn't have them. There is a case that Floyd's timing could be a factor and he could beat Leonard to the punch similiarily to how Duran did in the first fight, but SRL was a very flat footed in the first fight. If SRL was to utilise his footwork and movement, Floyd is not a
      proficient enough front foot fighter to be able to walk Leonard down IMO.
      If Floyd was to fight Hearns, I don't believe he has the physical tools to win, Hearns ain't a guy you can just walk down because of the freakish power he carried, Floyds chin is legit but against a guy as powerful as Hearns it kinda doesn't matter, Duran's chin was legit but as a smaller guy fighting Hearns he got brutally iced inside 2. I also don't believe Floyd would have the power to stop Hearns either if he gassed,, pretty boy Floyd was a beast down at 130 but the power never really translated up to 147.
      your right about floyds timing, his adaptability was crazy.
      now with leonard being flatfooted, floyd woulda easily outboxed him. but if leonard chose to move around, i can see floyd staying poised and being patient, even if it meant having a boring fight. so i dont think he'd walk down a ray leonard who is peddaling on his bike.
      theres no telling with a master like floyd. i call him a chamelion.

      your 100% right about the Hearns freakish physical advantage against ray leonard. if hearns wouldnt of gassed, that fight may have ended up like Vernon forrest vs shane mosley.

      i say floyd might walk hearns down bcuz u get inside a long-armed fighters reach and nuetralize the reach advantage. and a guy like Floyd is smart enuff to have figured that out in 3-4 rds.

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        #33
        Adrien Broner could have been remembered for the right reasons, if only he'd landed in the right environment. Virgil Hunter would have moulded him into a top, long-term fighter. It's a shame really.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Krucial
          your right about floyds timing, his adaptability was crazy.
          now with leonard being flatfooted, floyd woulda easily outboxed him. but if leonard chose to move around, i can see floyd staying poised and being patient, even if it meant having a boring fight. so i dont think he'd walk down a ray leonard who is peddaling on his bike.
          theres no telling with a master like floyd. i call him a chamelion.

          your 100% right about the Hearns freakish physical advantage against ray leonard. if hearns wouldnt of gassed, that fight may have ended up like Vernon forrest vs shane mosley.

          i say floyd might walk hearns down bcuz u get inside a long-armed fighters reach and nuetralize the reach advantage. and a guy like Floyd is smart enuff to have figured that out in 3-4 rds.
          If he walked Hearns down though, I don't know how he wins rounds, he'd wouldn't be able to outbox Hearns on the front foot, he'd have to eat jab after jab and if you walk on to a straight right it could be over. Floyd was never really able to walk a guy down at 147, mainly because he never needed to. Against Hearns he would have to try and walk him down and take risks, something he never really had to do because of his defensive mastery.
          It's a shame we never got Mayweather vs Paul Williams this would give us a much better gauge for how Floyd would deal with a guy with much greater physical tools

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            #35
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            If he walked Hearns down though, I don't know how he wins rounds, he'd wouldn't be able to outbox Hearns on the front foot, he'd have to eat jab after jab and if you walk on to a straight right it could be over. Floyd was never really able to walk a guy down at 147, mainly because he never needed to. Against Hearns he would have to try and walk him down and take risks, something he never really had to do because of his defensive mastery.
            It's a shame we never got Mayweather vs Paul Williams this would give us a much better gauge for how Floyd would deal with a guy with much greater physical tools
            the reach of hearns would require floyd to fight inside. floyd would def have to make it a dog fight. bcuz yeah a taller fighter's jab is easy to be hit by. so he'd have to get inside and utilize his shoulder roll more than ever.
            its a very interesting fight.

            vs corrales, floyd sat in the pocket and evaded all his shots and was close enuff to land counter shots, not saying hearns is corrales, but thats an example of floyd getting inside a longer fighters reach.

            and floyd actually walked a cpl guys down at 47 in some rounds, including pacquiao.

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              #36
              I think by spinning he means that ****** wavy haircut he has, is that true? can someone confirm this?

              These kids today.

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                #37
                Originally posted by White Willy
                Adrien Broner could have been remembered for the right reasons, if only he'd landed in the right environment. Virgil Hunter would have moulded him into a top, long-term fighter. It's a shame really.
                exactly. and also, if AB wouldve signed to mayweather promotions and got trained by them guys, he wouldve been better off. bcuz sticking with his dad and fam probably left him being around yes men, instead of guys that will tell him no and will keep em disciplined.
                i want AB to dominate 140, but he has to be willing to let his hands go wen his defense isnt working so well. like against mikey garcia, he was stuck it seemed. that was cringeworthy to watch

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Krucial
                  the reach of hearns would require floyd to fight inside. floyd would def have to make it a dog fight. bcuz yeah a taller fighter's jab is easy to be hit by. so he'd have to get inside and utilize his shoulder roll more than ever.
                  its a very interesting fight.

                  vs corrales, floyd sat in the pocket and evaded all his shots and was close enuff to land counter shots, not saying hearns is corrales, but thats an example of floyd getting inside a longer fighters reach.

                  and floyd actually walked a cpl guys down at 47 in some rounds, including pacquiao.
                  He mainly fought on the back foot vs Pac though, he came forward in a few rounds but would have to do it in every round vs Hearns. Pac and Corrales are both under 6ft, Hearns was 6"1 with a 78" wingspan, he's a completely different animal IMO. Floyd was always in range to hit Corrales during their fight, I don't know how he'd be able to maintain that sort of distance against Hearns without having to take clean shots.
                  It's all subjective anyway bro, we'll never truly know how it'd play out

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                    He mainly fought on the back foot vs Pac though, he came forward in a few rounds but would have to do it in every round vs Hearns. Pac and Corrales are both under 6ft, Hearns was 6"1 with a 78" wingspan, he's a completely different animal IMO. Floyd was always in range to hit Corrales during their fight, I don't know how he'd be able to maintain that sort of distance against Hearns without having to take clean shots.
                    It's all subjective anyway bro, we'll never truly know how it'd play out
                    yeah true. fact is though, floyd was a tuff welterweight. so we know he couldve fought any era.
                    great debate

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Krucial
                      yeah true. fact is though, floyd was a tuff welterweight. so we know he couldve fought any era.
                      great debate
                      Agreed, he could've been successful in any era 👍🏻

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