Literally the GREATEST Live stream in Boxing History EVER!!!

[juggernaut666]

I can't help but like Eddie Hearn man, he's just an accessible guy. Deontay and Shelly slapped him around, but it was a joy to watch.

They didnt slap anyone around despite tha boxing voices attempt to manipulate Hearn on their show . The thing is facts are facts and Hearn used clear and calm points that had Finkle fidgiting bc HE tried to make it out like Hearn didnt want the Wilder fight which everyone knows is nonsense .

He then put Wilders rant on ice when he CLEARLY and CALMLY told Wilder Joshua has no fear of him and then took it further and ASKED him when did Joshua run from him( he had no answer ) and then asked him who did he fight in 38 fights that makes him thwe most feared man in boxing and even mentioned Finkle about how Wilder was not ready to unify after he won the title .



What was Wilders response as Hearn then let Wilder spaz out and stopped responding for a minute to Wilders disrespectful lunacy ?

EVERYONES GOT EXCUSES , EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES blah blah blah ........... Wilder didnt have any actual answers.

The only thing i got from that is Wilder ACTUALLY has made himself believe everyone has ducked him from Klitchko to present . The guy is more of a head case than i originally thought , listening to his OWN reality of whats NOT actually going on bc i thought MAYBE it was all talk but listening to him live tells me all now .

[juggernaut666]

No sensible person could listen to this and not come to the conclusion that Wilder desperately wants to fight the best in the world.

Its not about sense of fighting the best its about a huge payday against ONE guy.

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Its not about sense of fighting the best its about a huge payday against ONE guy.

Then why did he pay a huge step aside to face King Kong?

Stop being a hater. Stop being a troll. Try to have a respectable conversation like a human being. Wilder's actions make it clear he wants to fight the best.

He could have easily vacated and fought Martin for the IBF, but instead he flew overseas to fight Povetkin in Russia.

He was willing to spend a ton of money to fight King Kong, a TOUGHER OPPONENT, instead of making more money to face a lesser opponent.

He offered Joseph Parker the lion's share of the money to unify.

Now he's willing to go anywhere on planet Earth to face Joshua ASAP, even though he'd make way more money milking his belt and fighting Joshua a year from now.

[juggernaut666]

Then why did he pay a huge step aside to face King Kong?

Stop being a hater. Stop being a troll. Try to have a respectable conversation like a human being. Wilder's actions make it clear he wants to fight the best.

He could have easily vacated and fought Martin for the IBF, but instead he flew overseas to fight Povetkin in Russia.

He was willing to spend a ton of money to fight King Kong, a TOUGHER OPPONENT, instead of making more money to face a lesser opponent.

He offered Joseph Parker the lion's share of the money to unify.

Now he's willing to go anywhere on planet Earth to face Joshua ASAP, even though he'd make way more money milking his belt and fighting Joshua a year from now.

Because Wilder was cornered after turning down Whyte and bc the networks reluctance of a Stiverne rematch , he had limited options . Lets also not forget when Ortiz REAL age leaked out that he was around 50 is when soon after Wilder wanted that fight . lol

Parker COULDNT fight Wilder under contract to fight Hughie but you know this already . lol


Like i said its about a huge payday with Joshua NOT seeking out the best otherwise his resume wouldn't look like it does anyway you twist that . lol

Martin CHOSE to fight Joshua and NO , Wilder WAS scheduled to fight Povetkin so he COULDNT fight Martin ....but keep reaching . lol


The fight will happen summer 2018 in all likely hood ,theres no need to SEEK anything, no amount of empty boasting will change that .........ZERO !

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Because Wilder was cornered after turning down Whyte and bc the networks reluctance of a Stiverne rematch , he had limited options .

But if he didn't want to fight the best, why would he care? Even with the limited interest in a Stiverne rematch, he was going to make more money fighting Stiverne than he'd make fighting Ortiz. But he didn't care. He wanted Ortiz's scalp. He could have easily beaten Martin, but he didn't care, he wanted Povetkin's scalp. Those are not the actions of a man who doesn't want to fight the best.

Lets also not forget when Ortiz REAL age leaked out that he was around 50 is when soon after Wilder wanted that fight . lol

Try to be a reasonable adult. Absolutely ridiculous to believe that he's 50. Stop falling for ridiculous conspiracy theories that have no supporting evidence. You're suggesting that he waited until he was FORTY TWO YEARS OLD to turn professional?!?

Parker COULDNT fight Wilder under contract to fight Hughie but you know this already . lol

False. When Fury pulled out of the fight, Parker could have fought a voluntary. There were serious negotiations for a July 2017 fight on Showtime and the unification trumped the mandatory anyway.


[QUOTE]Like i said its about a huge payday with Joshua NOT seeking out the best otherwise his resume wouldn't look like it does anyway you twist that . lol

Stiverne was #3 in the world when Wilder shut him out. Ortiz was #2 in the world when Wilder paid $675,000 so he could fight him. Povetkin was #1 in the world when Wilder agrees to fight him in enemy territory.

Now he wants to fight Joshua immediately even though the payday to fight Joshua would be much much bigger a year from now. He doesn't care. It's not about money. He's desperate to prove he's the best.

And maybe he's not the best. Maybe AJ will knock him out. But give Wilder credit for wanting to prove he's the best.

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[QUOTE=WBC WBA IBF;18191014]But if he didn't want to fight the best, why would he care? Even with the limited interest in a Stiverne rematch, he was going to make more money fighting Stiverne than he'd make fighting Ortiz. But he didn't care. He wanted Ortiz's scalp. He could have easily beaten Martin, but he didn't care, he wanted Povetkin's scalp. Those are not the actions of a man who doesn't want to fight the best.




Try to be a reasonable adult. Absolutely ridiculous to believe that he's 50. Stop falling for ridiculous conspiracy theories that have no supporting evidence. You're suggesting that he waited until he was FORTY TWO YEARS OLD to turn professional?!?




False. When Fury pulled out of the fight, Parker could have fought a voluntary. There were serious negotiations for a July 2017 fight on Showtime and the unification trumped the mandatory anyway.

Like i said its about a huge payday with Joshua NOT seeking out the best otherwise his resume wouldn't look like it does anyway you twist that . lol

Stiverne was #3 in the world when Wilder shut him out. Ortiz was #2 in the world when Wilder paid $675,000 so he could fight him. Povetkin was #1 in the world when Wilder agrees to fight him in enemy territory.

Now he wants to fight Joshua immediately even though the payday to fight Joshua would be much much bigger a year from now. He doesn't care. It's not about money. He's desperate to prove he's the best.

And maybe he's not the best. Maybe AJ will knock him out. But give Wilder credit for wanting to prove he's the best.

As stated he was cornered into Ortiz ( who is not younger than i am at 43) . Ortiz WAS Wilders Mando after Stiverne so that was already covered .
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Once Aagain Martin hand picked Joshua to fight and fought him in April which was a month sooner than Povetkin was scheduled to fight Wilder ,so all the b.s you twist is EASILY disproved like you trying to make out like Parker avoiding Wilder .

Parker had to last minute replace Fury so he had Cojanu step in ,he was STILL under contract to fight Fury so no the Wilder fight couldn't have happened. And we ALL know Povetkin WAS Wilders Mando so no he didnt CHOOSE to fight him no matter how much youuse that one . lol

I dont really care what Stiverne was at any point ,he has a very mediocre career and skill sets and would have never even been talked about had Klitchko not retired . It doesnt give Wilder extra points ,thats not how the fight game works nor does Wilder get extra points for wanting Joshua because thats his JOB to fight the best as a champion ISNT IT ?

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Martin hand picked Joshua to fight and fought him in April which was a month sooner than Povetkin was scheduled to fight Wilder

Why does it matter when Povetkin was scheduled to fight Wilder? If Wilder wanted to duck Povetkin, he could have simply fought Martin in April instead of Joshua. The rumors at the time were thought Wilder would never go to Russia and would just ditch his belt to fight Martin instead.

Yet Wilder refused to drop his belt and insisted on going to Russia.

Those are not the actions of a man who doesn't want to face the best.

[juggernaut666]

Why does it matter when Povetkin was scheduled to fight Wilder? If Wilder wanted to duck Povetkin, he could have simply fought Martin in April instead of Joshua. The rumors at the time were thought Wilder would never go to Russia and would just ditch his belt to fight Martin instead.

Yet Wilder refused to drop his belt and insisted on going to Russia.

Those are not the actions of a man who doesn't want to face the best.

You are making a FALSE claim (thats what you do ,we know this is what you do ) that Wilder could have fought Martin . Wilder vs Povetkin WAS already in the works BEFORE Martin even won his belt .

So YOU are telling me Wilder is able to skip a Mandotory , cancel an already MAY SCHEDULED fight to persue a Martin fight and Martin HIMSELF cancels a Joshua for April fight that was made AFTER Wilder was signed to fight Povetkin in MAY ,right ? And you really think this all would go down ? SMH

You realize this is WHY it is important to substantiate when Povetkin WAS to fight Wilder right ?

YOU also must be some kind of simpleton to ignore that Martin was not interested in anyone but Joshua because Wilders team isnt going to shell out MILLIONS to fight Martin were they so please enlighten me how Martin was a option for Wilder again????????????

[Earl-Hickey]

Why does it matter when Povetkin was scheduled to fight Wilder? If Wilder wanted to duck Povetkin, he could have simply fought Martin in April instead of Joshua. The rumors at the time were thought Wilder would never go to Russia and would just ditch his belt to fight Martin instead.

Yet Wilder refused to drop his belt and insisted on going to Russia.

Those are not the actions of a man who doesn't want to face the best.

If Wilder would have done that the ******* of drizzling **** that would have been poured on him from every corner of the boxing world would have been unrecoverable.

[Earl-Hickey]

You are making a FALSE claim (thats what you do ,we know this is what you do ) that Wilder could have fought Martin . Wilder vs Povetkin WAS already in the works BEFORE Martin even won his belt .

So YOU are telling me Wilder is able to skip a Mandotory , cancel an already MAY SCHEDULED fight to persue a Martin fight in April ,right ? You realize this is WHY it is important to substantiate when Povetkin WAS to fight Wilder right ? YOU also must be some kind of simpleton to ignore that Martin was not interested in anyone but Joshua because Wilders team isnt going to shell out MILLIONS to dfight Martin were they ????????????

no he;s saying that wilder could have just vacated his belt and fought martin as a voluntary challenger.

Technically that is true but in reality had 0 chance of happening. Wilder would have become the laughing stock of boxing.