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  • chrisJS
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    #81
    Originally posted by Mzembe
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    Riiiight. But Algieri, Brandon Rios, Jeff Horn, Diaz, Clottey, Bradley, Margarito all were?
    Can you name one elite fighter that Pac fought at 140 or 147?
    I've seen Floyd fan days Hatton was better than Duran and Hearns so Hatton?

    He fought Floyd Mayweather while he was washed up also at 147 so that's at least two.

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    • GhostofDempsey
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      #82
      Originally posted by Mzembe
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      Riiiight. But Algieri, Brandon Rios, Jeff Horn, Diaz, Clottey, Bradley, Margarito all were?
      Can you name one elite fighter that Pac fought at 140 or 147?
      You must have forgot about Barrera, Morales, and a better version of JMM. A fresher version of Cotto and yes Bradley.

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      • Madison Boxing
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        #83
        **** off skippy. youre fighting corcoran not crawford.

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        • TonyGe
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          #84
          They let Horn get away with the crap he pulled on a high profile fighter like Pacquiao, imagine what he can do to Crawford. Crawford is clearly the better fighter but like another poster said Horn is huge and dirty.

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          • Mzembe
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            #85
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            Hard to talk "logic" when you think Corrales and Castillo and Judah and shot Mosley or weight drained Canelo are better fighters than Marquez, Barrera and Morales. That's just plain dumb.

            Also the fact you said Barrera beat Pacquaio means you lose the privilege to debate anything Boxing related.

            Also just to add "nonsense about Castillo beating Floyd how come he could win the 2nd time?" What a moronic statement but then again from a guy that says Barrera beat Pacquaio or that Judah is a better fighter than Marquez not a surprising one. So did Rahman not really beat Lewis? Did Frazier not really beat Ali? Did Duran never beat Leonard? There's probably more than 100,000 examples of a re-match being different than an original to suggest what happens in a re-match is also what happened the first time is so dumb.

            Still getting a kick out of Barrera beating Pacquaio. I'd love to see that fight. Was it a good one?
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            My comment about Barrera was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek so do ignore that but please explain the sense of fighting Barrera twice. Pac already beat him up the first time so why fight him again for **** sake?

            Also, how was Mosley shot? He had just annihilated Margarito and was the lineal belt holder. But the thing that gets me is Pacman chose to fight Mosley right after Mosley got beat up by Floyd and you probably celebrated that fight, right? How the **** is Pac fighting a guy who just got beat up and brough nothing to the table in every sense?

            There you go with your "Weight drained" Canelo - Canelo's team chose that weight. You need to brush up on your boxing dude.

            I really need to hear you justify Pac fighting Mosley or Horn or Algieri or Rios. Can you honestly do that?

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            • Mzembe
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              #86
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
              You must have forgot about Barrera, Morales, and a better version of JMM. A fresher version of Cotto and yes Bradley.
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              So what you are saying is Pac fought Barrera and Morales at 140? Or even JMM?
              How was Cotto fresh when he was forced to fight at 145? As for Bradley, there goes your credibility. Bradley was a joke. Can you name any elite guys that Bradley has beaten? He survived Provodnikov and beat Devon Alexander in a snooze fest. That's it.

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              • Mzembe
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                #87
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                I've seen Floyd fan days Hatton was better than Duran and Hearns so Hatton?

                He fought Floyd Mayweather while he was washed up also at 147 so that's at least two.
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                Only idiots would think Hatton is better than Duran or Hearns.
                Hatton was undefeated when he fought Floyd and 147 means exactly what when Floyd was the smaller guy in 2005 when he moved to 140. Hatton was already fighting for most of his career at 140 and refused to fight Floyd then.
                He chose to call out Floyd when Floyd moved to 147 so logically and factually can you say Hatton was smaller than Floyd?

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Mzembe
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                  So what you are saying is Pac fought Barrera and Morales at 140? Or even JMM?
                  How was Cotto fresh when he was forced to fight at 145? As for Bradley, there goes your credibility. Bradley was a joke. Can you name any elite guys that Bradley has beaten? He survived Provodnikov and beat Devon Alexander in a snooze fest. That's it.
                  Cotto was a more game version at 145 than the version of him who fought Floyd after two consecutive beat downs.

                  What you are saying is that Barrera, Morales or JMM weren't considered elite at the time Pac fought them, regardless of weight class?

                  You discredit Bradley, but he also chalked up wins against a roided up Marquez, Alexander (the guy who beat Maidana who Floyd fought twice), Peterson, Holt, Witter, all solid fighters. He also went the distance with Pac three times.

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                  • chrisJS
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Mzembe
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                    My comment about Barrera was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek so do ignore that but please explain the sense of fighting Barrera twice. Pac already beat him up the first time so why fight him again for **** sake?

                    Also, how was Mosley shot? He had just annihilated Margarito and was the lineal belt holder. But the thing that gets me is Pacman chose to fight Mosley right after Mosley got beat up by Floyd and you probably celebrated that fight, right? How the **** is Pac fighting a guy who just got beat up and brough nothing to the table in every sense?

                    There you go with your "Weight drained" Canelo - Canelo's team chose that weight. You need to brush up on your boxing dude.

                    I really need to hear you justify Pac fighting Mosley or Horn or Algieri or Rios. Can you honestly do that?
                    Mosley was 38 hadn't fought in a year and a half and only good win in years was against Margrito who sucks without his wraps. I didn't give a **** when Pacquaio fought him. I hate Pacquaio.

                    Why did Mayweather fight Cotto AFTER Pacquaio and Margarito beat him up badly? I bet you celebrated that?

                    The weight for Canelo was garbage. Maybe they figured the only shot at getting Floyd in the ring was by catch-weight? Ever though of that? Why on earth would Canelo who was already struggling to get to 154 then come down in weight and his next fight could no longer make the weight. Try to view Boxing objectively for once. De La Hoya was the guy that said he wants Pacquaio at 147 and then he got bludgeoned and I bet you give no credit there? Again try to view the sport objectively.

                    I can't justify those ****ty Pac fights the way I can't justify Mayweather-Maidana II, Mayweather-Berto, Mayweather-Judah, Mayweather-Marquez and many other fights.

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Mzembe
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                      Only idiots would think Hatton is better than Duran or Hearns.
                      Hatton was undefeated when he fought Floyd and 147 means exactly what when Floyd was the smaller guy in 2005 when he moved to 140. Hatton was already fighting for most of his career at 140 and refused to fight Floyd then.
                      He chose to call out Floyd when Floyd moved to 147 so logically and factually can you say Hatton was smaller than Floyd?
                      Hatton lost to Collazo and was badly rocked by him (Collazo has no power) got a gift win and his other welterweight fight was a KO loss to a guy Malignaggi KO'd. Hatton was a cherry pick. He wasn't that good at 140 beat an old Tszyu with the assistance of a biased ref.

                      Try to see the sport objectively.

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