Who has beaten more top 10 fighters? Wilder or GGG?

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  • Jewish-Reptile
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    #11
    Stivene was likely top 6-7 when he fought Wilder, potentially.

    GGG has cleared out the entire divison willing or unwilling before running into issues with Jacobs and Canelo. The run of wins he has were over literally every top ten guys.

    In context Wilder has one win over a top ten guy three years ago, Golovkin has several but the last 12 months he's shown huge decline, coincidently as he's risen his opposition level.

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    • daggum
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      #12
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      GGG has beaten more top 10 world rated boxers than Wilder by a large margin. In fairness to Wilder he has recently tried to fight very high rated heavyweight boxers but the fights never happened because his intended opponents tested positive for a banned substance. GGG is considered by many as the best middleweight in the world and either AJ or Wilder is usually considered the best heavyweight in the world.
      why would wilder be considered the best heavyweight.....cause he gets a lot of press and is american? have you seen his resume? guys like pulev and parker have much better resumes. no one considers them the best....why? an australian and a bulgarian thats why. don't let the american hype fool you. this could be another broner, berto situation.

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        #13
        The same fans riding Wilder's bone, are the ones who will say Marciano was a bum who only fought bums. Same fan-boys who will say GGG only fought bums or blown up WWs while Wilder has a size advantage in most of his fights and his best wins are Stiverne and Arreola--two journeymen who fought one another for the Golden Doughnut Title. Anyone notice what all the Wilder fans have in common? It's a big fat double-standard.

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        • stellen
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          #14
          Stiverne and arreola are his best wins! LMAO no wonder his fans tremble at the thought of him facing whyte before he has a chance to cash out vs joshua.

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            #15
            Originally posted by daggum
            why would wilder be considered the best heavyweight.....cause he gets a lot of press and is american? have you seen his resume? guys like pulev and parker have much better resumes. no one considers them the best....why? an australian and a bulgarian thats why. don't let the american hype fool you. this could be another broner, berto situation.
            Wilder may suck, but guys keep cheating rather than fight him. AJ, who IMO would beat him, doesn't appear to want to fight Wilder now, opting for lucrative easy fights in England with Haye, and maybe Fury (since Chisora lost this weekend.)

            Hearn and Aj said they wanted to unify but lowballed the hell out of Parker. Why, if this is the fight he wants?

            AJ is the better fighter, Wilder's resume is garbage, he punches too wide and leaves himself open, he doesn't appear to have a high ring IQ. But he is fast for his size, athletic, and has serious power and for whatever reason AJ doesn't want to fight him now.

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              #16
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
              The same fans riding Wilder's bone, are the ones who will say Marciano was a bum who only fought bums. Same fan-boys who will say GGG only fought bums or blown up WWs while Wilder has a size advantage in most of his fights and his best wins are Stiverne and Arreola--two journeymen who fought one another for the Golden Doughnut Title. Anyone notice what all the Wilder fans have in common? It's a big fat double-standard.
              the best way to describe it....mind bobblin!!!

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                #17
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                The same fans riding Wilder's bone, are the ones who will say Marciano was a bum who only fought bums. Same fan-boys who will say GGG only fought bums or blown up WWs while Wilder has a size advantage in most of his fights and his best wins are Stiverne and Arreola--two journeymen who fought one another for the Golden Doughnut Title. Anyone notice what all the Wilder fans have in common? It's a big fat double-standard.
                Poster GhostofDempsey usually calls posts like this race-baiting.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  why would wilder be considered the best heavyweight.....cause he gets a lot of press and is american? have you seen his resume? guys like pulev and parker have much better resumes. no one considers them the best....why? an australian and a bulgarian thats why. don't let the american hype fool you. this could be another broner, berto situation.
                  Yup, agree with the sentiments above.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Wilder may suck, but guys keep cheating rather than fight him. AJ, who IMO would beat him, doesn't appear to want to fight Wilder now, opting for lucrative easy fights in England with Haye, and maybe Fury (since Chisora lost this weekend.)

                    Hearn and Aj said they wanted to unify but lowballed the hell out of Parker. Why, if this is the fight he wants?

                    AJ is the better fighter, Wilder's resume is garbage, he punches too wide and leaves himself open, he doesn't appear to have a high ring IQ. But he is fast for his size, athletic, and has serious power and for whatever reason AJ doesn't want to fight him now.
                    how did he lowball them? whats wrong with 20 percent? is parker a huge star that i didtn know about? joshua gets 90k fans. parker got 9k against ruiz. you cant just say something is a lowball without lookign at the economics. overpaying just to beat a guy is pretty lame. yeah you want the belt but you also want to make money. there is a balance between the two. ttakam only got 10 percent. should he have held out for more too?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      how did he lowball them? whats wrong with 20 percent? is parker a huge star that i didtn know about? joshua gets 90k fans. parker got 9k against ruiz. you cant just say something is a lowball without lookign at the economics. overpaying just to beat a guy is pretty lame. yeah you want the belt but you also want to make money. there is a balance between the two. ttakam only got 10 percent. should he have held out for more too?
                      Well Takam was a last minute substitute. If you don't think thats low, ok. AJ is the draw, without question, which makes what he and Hearn are doing very clear.

                      Rather than risk a fight with Wilder AJ seems to want to fight Haye, Fury and Parker for the money in ENgland before Wilder. I get it, makes fiscal sense.

                      If he decides to fight Wilder next, he might have to come to the US where the revenue would likely be more than 90k Wembley, but AJ will not have such a loud home crowd behind him and as the draw, he surely wants that. I get this too.

                      Just do me a favor-if AJ signs with HBO the fight with Wilder will be delayed until after the initial deal is up. Just please call him out like you did Stevenson.

                      As I said, I think AJ wins so I don't see why he wouldn't want to make the Wilder fight right next.

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