Why do Joshua fans keep trying to throw someone else ahead of Joshua for Wilder

[Larry the boss]

I have not read this thread yet Larry, usually I do before responding. I am not doing so because I have a prediction to make: All those individuals who one thought were boxing fans? will turn into accountants and explain the financial logic involved with this match up.

They used to do this crap with Ward as well. I guess when the Houston Astros won the pennant we should have seen the California Angels play the Dodgers for the world series because...it makes more financial sense to keep the contest on the same coast and the Angels break attendance records consistently!

guess at the next Super Bowl one should expect to see the two most financially lucrative teams play because it makes more sense...

Boxing fans are brainwashed when they choose to think like morons. Which is why we get fights with over weight contenders, instead of the best fighters against each other.

Sometimes kids say it better. No kid in his right mind that I know would tell you that a heavyweight championship should be based on financial sense. Kids know better.

spot on, its embarrassing

[Robbie Barrett]

No as a fan we should want the best to fight the best. Why would you support **** fights? This is the fight to make, let them all sit down and crunch the numbers. As a fan you should want this fight now!!

If another fight makes more money then obviously more paying fans want to see that fight than the one you want. Demand and supply Larry.

[Robbie Barrett]

From a Fighter's point of view? Study your boxing history please... For most of boxing history fighters were compelled to fight the best with some notable caveats, including in the early days racial discrimination against blacks, the occasional fighter being ducked who was not thought of as much of an opponent but who was a danger... guys like Charlie Burley and Paul Williams, Margarito even.

Boxing history is written in the contests of the best versus the best. Even crooked King knew this was true and would try to make those fights that mattered. Fighters want to be the best! To be the best you have to fight the best! It is management and trying to be lucrative at the expense of the sport that is the problem.

99% of fighters go for the biggest money if they believe they can win lets not try and pretend otherwise. Luckily the majority of the time the biggest money and the best are usually the same fight.

[Larry the boss]

They all bring more to the table than Wilder. Wilder didn't want to improve his marketability and make $4.5 mil at the same time, he chose to fight for $1.4 mil instead. His mouth is saying he wants Joshua, his actions say differently.

He got his mandatory out of the way after Ortiz ****ed the fight up..wtf are you talking about?? Haye is over the hill..Bellew is straight ass and Fury is fat as ****...as a fan do you want to see those fights?

[billeau2]

The history of boxing, the dialectic of synthesis to new thesis, is written in the matches. Mike Tyson, a historian of the sweet science, as well as a great fighter in his day, was told by his people, that the very notion of different political parties having a red and blue designation comes from a match between each respective party's champ, one for the red and one for the blue.

When we look at the sport, we see greatness proved in the matches, does it really matter that the first lucrative commercial gate was during the Killian Sullivan fight? Or that sports superstars came out in the roaring 20's and Dempsey broke financial records?

No! what we see and care about are the contests pitting the best against the best. Technique was validated during these matches... Could the wrecking ball puncher be beaten by the boxer?

So seriously people... Wilder is the puncher, and AJ is the guy who has skills, it is a classic match up. Whyte is a decent fighter, he may even have a chance to beat one of the big boys, and the other guys also will have their trials and tribulations...

Right now in the premier division of boxing the two guys on the radar are Wilder and Joshua, and that is the fight that needs to get made! The wild punching man against the boxer puncher, who got by the old champ. CLASSIC.

[Derranged]

Just make the fight already.

[Francis M.]

This fight needs to be made.
Also want to know what are the highest pay for both fighters?

[billeau2]

99% of fighters go for the biggest money if they believe they can win lets not try and pretend otherwise. Luckily the majority of the time the biggest money and the best are usually the same fight.

You are making a leap of logic. You are assuming that it is a correlation that naturally exists, between the the biggest money and the best fights. No there is a CAUSE, a reason why the best fights bring in the biggest money...it is because promoters make a concerted effort to promote those fights, when in fact they are willing to do so. Promoters also at times try to nurse a fighter, try to protect an unbeaten record, etc... and that is bad for the sport, its something that fans should not except.

Joshua and Wilder can easily be promoted. Then it will be the best fight for the money. But Joshua's management has to not be allowed to protect Joshua by avoiding this fight.

And again you are confusing fighters and their management: No fighter would accept their management coming out and saying: "This guy might kick your a ss so we will duck him until he gets old, or hit by a train." Fighters don't think like that.

[LetOutTheCage]

Because its not clear he is one of the top 2, its not clear whether he is even the top US heavyweight, why is that so hard for u fanboys to understand?

[Larry the boss]

If another fight makes more money then obviously more paying fans want to see that fight than the one you want. Demand and supply Larry.

Do you want to see Joshua and Wilder unify??? simple question