Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua Starting to Make This a Bowe-Lewis Situation

[Dr Rassclart]

Get a grip. Wilder beats a static, fat Stiverne whose only claim to fame is picking up a title via TKO over a waning Arreola. Fans of pea-head, stilt-legged Wilder are simply delusional.

[Gillie]

Yeah Wlad dropped him with the same shot, a straight right set up by a 1-2. The difference is, Wilder will finish him when he drops him. I used to think Joshua KO's Wilder, but the execution I saw on Saturday night was something that shook me to my core. Wilder is the real heavyweight king. That would have been Ortiz if he wasn't on PED's

Maybe Wilder beats AJ but I wouldn't put too much credence on yesterday's performance. Wilder looked spectacular but Stiverne offered zero resistance. It's not like AJ is just going to stand there and get smacked around. If Wilder wins, he will have to be tactically sharp and very patient. I don't see him being as aggressive as he was last night. AJ is also a monster puncher.

[sotgoda]

Get a grip. Wilder beats a static, fat Stiverne whose only claim to fame is picking up a title via TKO over a waning Arreola. Fans of pea-head, stilt-legged Wilder are simply delusional.

Stiverne was made to look bad by Wilder. Stiverne beats the current Whyte and Takam. I guess time will tell about this should they be matched up. When Wilder beats someone, there are all kinds of excuses. I bet even Arreola beats Whyte. There is nothing special that Whyte does.

[sotgoda]

Maybe Wilder beats AJ but I wouldn't put too much credence on yesterday's performance. Wilder looked spectacular but Stiverne offered zero resistance. It's not like AJ is just going to stand there and get smacked around. If Wilder wins, he will have to be tactically sharp and very patient. I don't see him being as aggressive as he was last night. AJ is also a monster puncher.

Agreed but AJ also wont be ****** by being too aggressive as well. Wilder is the bigger puncher and can turn his lights out much faster. Wilder embarrassed Stiverne but that does not mean Stiverne cannot beat many of the other heavyweights.

[juggernaut666]

Another ignorant Wilder ramble...what a shocker ...lol


Lewis didnt even have a major title before the Bowe incident so it doesnt resemble anything of two undefeated champions and one tossing belt in a garbage pale. Bowe himself was champion only a year before he signed to fight Lewis ...thats right ONE year...

Joshua has only been champion himself since 2016. Does wilder really think he himself avoiding klitchko is a duck then? lol

The notion the fight hasn't happened yet bc arrording to
" The Wilder logic" that Joshua is making it another Lewis/Bowe situation is outright ******ity,theres just no other way to phrase that...lol

This Shows just how dumb the guy is bc the division then at THAT point was far thinner and they never even fought where Hearn unlike Newman ( Bowes manager) wants the fight.???

what an idiot this wilder proves time and time again...does he actually say anything right? ...did i mention that hes an idiot? Lets also remember at least Bowe fought Holyfield before 8 years as a pro so who really is avoiding top fights here anyway? .

[Raggamuffin]

Joshua is becoming Wilders ***** these days lol...

[Jrtxboiy]

You sound ****** joshua beat a old ass granpa and got dropped by him

[shaheed1972]

I don't quite get it, I mean I can see why Wilder is calling him out but AJ has said he'll fight Wilder next year.

Personally I'd like one of them to beat Parker first and make it for all the belts.

Ideally AJ fights Parker next and beats him so it's for the unified champion of the world and Wilder fights and beats Whyte first to get more exposure to the UK fans who don't really know much about him.

Then they have a mega fight in a stadium in the summer, winner takes all.

I agree except i'd rather see Wilder fight Parker. No need to fight Whyte. Nothing gained in that fight.

[352]

the parallel here is only the ducking part. Bowe ducked Lewis like Joshua is ducking Wilder.

You've clearly taken one too many shots to the head. What bull**** is being spouted by Wilder and the people around him - to make believe that Joshua is afraid of him! Dillian Whyte is unafraid, so you can rest assured that neither is Joshua. Anyone who suggests there is any "ducking" going on here, is a deluded fool. I think the term that Americans are so fond of is "casual." You're a casual because you have no understanding of professional boxing. You're a casual because you can't grasp the simplest of facts - that holding a belt brings with it obligations that are, sometimes, beyond the control of the belt holder.

Wilder only holds ONE belt - the somewhat discreditable WBC belt, tainted by making Stiverne the obligatory opponent for Wilder, when he had fought only once in the previous two years.

AJ has two belts (three if one counts the IBO.) The IBF forced him to defend his title against Carlos Takam, which he successfully did, in front of a crowd of 80,000 people, in Wales. The WBA had previously stipulated that he MUST fight his mandatory challenge IN THE VERY NEXT FIGHT after his IBF mandatory. The waters are a little clouded by the fact that the mandatory, at the time the directive was given, was none other than Luis Ortiz. Since testing positive for two banned substances, the WBA has now removed Ortiz from its rankings and banned him for a year.

There is an assumption that the WBA will replace Ortiz and force AJ to take the replacement as his next fight.

In my eyes, AJ is a bigger name than Wilder (indeed, Wilder has a bigger name in the UK - thanks to AJ - than he does in the US)...but AJ is NOT bigger than the WBA (nor the IBF.)

In other people's eyes, Wilder is bigger than AJ - but, once again, Wilder is NOT bigger than the WBC.

Fans have to understand - it's not AJ, nor Eddie Hearn, putting obstacles in front of a bout between these two. It's not Wilder, nor even his very average promoter, Lou diBella, holding things up. It is the sanctioning bodies.

Even minutes ago, I read that the WBC may order Wilder to meet Dominic Breazeale (AJ's first victim, as champion), following his defeat of Eric Molina (Champion AJ's second victim) next. Now, I don't know where that places WBC Silver Heavyweight, Dillian Whyte (AJ's last victim before becoming IBF champion) but, as you can see, Wilder "deciding" he wants to fight AJ next, is not at all straightforward.

Even if Wilder decides that his next fight will be with AJ, that does not discount, in any way, the obligation that AJ may yet face, regarding the WBA mandatory defence of his belt.

While all this verbal sparring is going on, there is still the small matter of recovering from a broken nose, which might well delay a full return to the gym from AJ. Before anyone cries about that, let's not forget how much time Wilder was allowed off, to repair his broken hand, following the Arreola fight.

Thus, assuming AJ has to meet his mandatory in February or March, the EARLIEST time he can face Wilder is next Summer (probably at Wembley.) So what's the beef?

In AJ's own words, after he defeated Takam: 'Boxing needs it and so do I, 100 per cent.'

He went on to say: 'I think it comes to a decision where you have the IBO, the WBO and WBA. They have mandatories. so provided I'm free I can't fight Joe Bloggs from anywhere I have to fight championship fighters.

'Now there are belts on the line we have obligations as champions (but) my door is open to any champion.

'Everyone saw how hard I worked to get these belts so I'm not going to just give them up. But when I'm free we can look at these fights and I think the Wilder one has to happen.'

Now tell me - ARE THOSE THE WORDS OF A MAN WHO IS DUCKING WILDER?

Rid**** Bowe was an American coward. Anthony Joshua is a British hero. There's a big difference!

[chocolatebomber]

You've clearly taken one too many shots to the head. What bull**** is being spouted by Wilder and the people around him - to make believe that Joshua is afraid of him! Dillian Whyte is unafraid, so you can rest assured that neither is Joshua. Anyone who suggests there is any "ducking" going on here, is a deluded fool. I think the term that Americans are so fond of is "casual." You're a casual because you have no understanding of professional boxing. You're a casual because you can't grasp the simplest of facts - that holding a belt brings with it obligations that are, sometimes, beyond the control of the belt holder.

Wilder only holds ONE belt - the somewhat discreditable WBC belt, tainted by making Stiverne the obligatory opponent for Wilder, when he had fought only once in the previous two years.

AJ has two belts (three if one counts the IBO.) The IBF forced him to defend his title against Carlos Takam, which he successfully did, in front of a crowd of 80,000 people, in Wales. The WBA had previously stipulated that he MUST fight his mandatory challenge IN THE VERY NEXT FIGHT after his IBF mandatory. The waters are a little clouded by the fact that the mandatory, at the time the directive was given, was none other than Luis Ortiz. Since testing positive for two banned substances, the WBA has now removed Ortiz from its rankings and banned him for a year.

There is an assumption that the WBA will replace Ortiz and force AJ to take the replacement as his next fight.

In my eyes, AJ is a bigger name than Wilder (indeed, Wilder has a bigger name in the UK - thanks to AJ - than he does in the US)...but AJ is NOT bigger than the WBA (nor the IBF.)

In other people's eyes, Wilder is bigger than AJ - but, once again, Wilder is NOT bigger than the WBC.

Fans have to understand - it's not AJ, nor Eddie Hearn, putting obstacles in front of a bout between these two. It's not Wilder, nor even his very average promoter, Lou diBella, holding things up. It is the sanctioning bodies.

Even minutes ago, I read that the WBC may order Wilder to meet Dominic Breazeale (AJ's first victim, as champion), following his defeat of Eric Molina (Champion AJ's second victim) next. Now, I don't know where that places WBC Silver Heavyweight, Dillian Whyte (AJ's last victim before becoming IBF champion) but, as you can see, Wilder "deciding" he wants to fight AJ next, is not at all straightforward.

Even if Wilder decides that his next fight will be with AJ, that does not discount, in any way, the obligation that AJ may yet face, regarding the WBA mandatory defence of his belt.

While all this verbal sparring is going on, there is still the small matter of recovering from a broken nose, which might well delay a full return to the gym from AJ. Before anyone cries about that, let's not forget how much time Wilder was allowed off, to repair his broken hand, following the Arreola fight.

Thus, assuming AJ has to meet his mandatory in February or March, the EARLIEST time he can face Wilder is next Summer (probably at Wembley.) So what's the beef?

In AJ's own words, after he defeated Takam: 'Boxing needs it and so do I, 100 per cent.'

He went on to say: 'I think it comes to a decision where you have the IBO, the WBO and WBA. They have mandatories. so provided I'm free I can't fight Joe Bloggs from anywhere I have to fight championship fighters.

'Now there are belts on the line we have obligations as champions (but) my door is open to any champion.

'Everyone saw how hard I worked to get these belts so I'm not going to just give them up. But when I'm free we can look at these fights and I think the Wilder one has to happen.'

Now tell me - ARE THOSE THE WORDS OF A MAN WHO IS DUCKING WILDER?

Rid**** Bowe was an American coward. Anthony Joshua is a British hero. There's a big difference!

great post bro