Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder: So Many Guys Ducking Me, So Many Using PEDs

[sportbuddha]

No one is ducking anyone

Guys, these are professional fighters, they get paid to get hit in the head and spend months in gyms getting hit in the head. They aren’t scared of each other, if ducking occurs it’s for commercial reasons.

Yeah, they’ve done an amazing job on turning him into a cash spinner, if it he was my business I’d also be keeping ringing those cash registers as long as possible.

As a fight fan of course I want him to fight Wilder and it will happen, but in the meantime Wilder needs AJ way more than the other way around.

[N/A]

Wilder has done a lot of talking has he ever denied the $4 mil offer? I don't believe he has, in fact i think he acknowledged it when he asked for 7. You questioning if it's real is pathetic.

First Hearn claimed it was 3 and everybody here said it was an amazing offer Wilder would be an idiot to turn down.

Then Hearn claimed it was 4 and everybody here said it was an amazing offer Wilder would be an idiot to turn down.

But how could he be an idiot for turning down 3 when it became 4 so suddenly afterward? Turns out all of you guys were idiots for saying he should have accepted 3.

Now you say he should accept 4, so in a couple months when the offer increases to 5, who is the idiot then?

[Robbie Barrett]

First Hearn claimed it was 3 and everybody here said it was an amazing offer Wilder would be an idiot to turn down.

Then Hearn claimed it was 4 and everybody here said it was an amazing offer Wilder would be an idiot to turn down.

But how could he be an idiot for turning down 3 when it became 4 so suddenly afterward? Turns out all of you guys were idiots for saying he should have accepted 3.

Now you say he should accept 4, so in a couple months when the offer increases to 5, who is the idiot then?

It was 3 and Wilder keeps the US revenue too. Which puts it over 4.

[Lester Tutor]

You've proven nothing.

You saying "trust me" etc means nothing. You're claiming that he will be heavily taxed in both countries without evidence.

If what you are saying was true UK and US fighters would never fight each other.

no. give an example of a major US vs UK fight and which city is more ideal in total revenue with gate, PPV, etc..

I'll make it easier for you to understand. We can play two angles, your choice.

Who was Charles Martin to Hearn or Joshua? Let's revisit the facts FFS...

Martin £3 mil / $4.2 mil
Joshua £0.75 mil / $1.05 mil

How long has Wilder been a Champ vs Martin's prestige? Who has been the bigger name, Martin or Wilder since they became champ?

Are you serious that Wilder, who's already already been champ to accept a measley 4.5 million? Hearn and Joshua are straight pussıe for the fact that they ARE PRAYING Whyte gets lucky as he did when staggered Joshua for a couple seconds.

If the NARRATIVE is to build up a fight with Joshua then COMMON SENSE tells you that Wilder has always been a bigger GEM than Martin.

It's straight up simple business. How is Wilder even pricing himself out asking for 7 million in the UK?!! That's beyond fair. What's the difference between Martin's purse and what Hearn are offering Wilder now?

FFS...

should we talk that? or the taxing on both soils? Either way, your theory that Wilder is ducking is as ****** as GGG fans believing hype or anything coming out of Hearn or Whyte's mouth that Wilder should ''take it'' to build .. lol

[JakeTheBoxer]

Turning down £4M to fight a bum is ****** regardless.

Whyte is no bum. certainly not for Wilder.

Wilder struggled with Szpilka and Duhaupas, every Euro fighter that can punch is dangerous for him.

[Robbie Barrett]

no. give an example of a major US vs UK fight and which city is more ideal in total revenue with gate, PPV, etc..

I'll make it easier for you to understand. We can play two angles, your choice.

Who was Charles Martin to Hearn or Joshua? Let's revisit the facts FFS...

Martin £3 mil / $4.2 mil
Joshua £0.75 mil / $1.05 mil

How long has Wilder been a Champ vs Martin's prestige? Who has been the bigger name, Martin or Wilder since they became champ?

Are you serious that Wilder, who's already already been champ to accept a measley 4.5 million? Hearn and Joshua are straight pussıe for the fact that they ARE PRAYING Whyte gets lucky as he did when staggered Joshua for a couple seconds.

If the NARRATIVE is to build up a fight with Joshua then COMMON SENSE tells you that Wilder has always been a bigger GEM than Martin.

It's straight up simple business. How is Wilder even pricing himself out asking for 7 million in the UK?!! That's beyond fair. What's the difference between Martin's purse and what Hearn are offering Wilder now?

FFS...

should we talk that? or the taxing on both soils? Either way, your theory that Wilder is ducking is as ****** as GGG fans believing hype or anything coming out of Hearn or Whyte's mouth that Wilder should ''take it'' to build .. lol

You've gone off on a completely different subject.

How long Wilder has been champ is irrelevant.

The $4.5 mil Martin earned was to fight Joshua. The offer Wilder received was to fight Whyte. That's a huge difference.

Joshua needed Martin to gain popularity and for marketing as a title holder. It was an investment. Joshua doesn't need Wilder, Wilder doesn't really further Joshua's appeal.

[DuckAdonis]

What is this fight Whyte first BS? Whyte is a bum and couldnt take out the giant Finnish taxi driver Helenious

Whyte couldnt finish a fighter that a supposed 'bum' ,who wilder ko'd, called Duhaupas knocked out.

[Vinnykin]

Just like Pac had issues with taxes as a foreign superstar, he had to pay both USA and Phillipines tax. (assuming his debts are even clear yet Arum hooks up Pac overseas with countries with a lower tax).

For Wider's current prestige and image, surely Haymon is advising well that 7 million is more ideal to face Whyte in the UK.

45+% from Wilder's own purse goes to Her Majestry's vault of *******s. Wilder would walk away from the UK based taxation of about 3.5 million more or less.

Then You've got USA based taxation working abroad, Wilder's purse drops from 3.5 million to 1.7 USD. with mgmt expenses from Wilder's team he probably take 1.4 million all to himself after doing a UK venture to beat Whyte with a risk on foreign soil if it goes to the cards...

Wilder's deal Showtime and PBC, sponsors, I'd say Wilder makes about 1million top after taxes at home against Stiverne including gate etc..

Stiverne vs Whyte's differential when it's all said and done is about 400-700K margin of error.

Therefore, the build up is still justified. Hearn's offer to Wilder for 4 million is a joke

You have no idea what you're talking about. Pulling figures out your ass and spewing false information.

You have no idea how U.K tax works and that you can off-set it against your U.S tax bill.



1.5 million off of 4 million? hahahaha

[classicbuzzbox]

When Deontay is injecting them roids, I wonder if he remembers those media releases and thinks "damn bro, I hope I don't fail a drug test. Them masking agents better be doing the business".

All guys at the top level are on the ****. Even fat as **** Toney and Tarver got busted. Refrigerator guts Fury is under a question mark. Ortiz can't afford the top level masking agents. Wlad looked like a water balloon full of walnuts. Joshua has a future in Mr Universe when he's done with boxing.

It's like the 100m sprint or top level cycling. These guys all need to do it or they are at a major disadvantage to the next guy. Just have a ***in look at Wilder. I don't give a **** anyway, because I understand that they all need to take PEDs at the highest level, but the media releases always make me chuckle.

[Lester Tutor]

You've gone off on a completely different subject.

How long Wilder has been champ is irrelevant.

The $4.5 mil Martin earned was to fight Joshua. The offer Wilder received was to fight Whyte. That's a huge difference.

Joshua needed Martin to gain popularity and for marketing as a title holder. It was an investment. Joshua doesn't need Wilder, Wilder doesn't really further Joshua's appeal.

?????

C'mon bro. Brits are intelligent.... I hope.. You're saying given both circumstances or all circumstances, that Martin's purse was justified and equalled to Whyte vs Wilder's (Hearn publicity offer) is also justified with the same purse? dude, that doesn't make any foooking sense. Wilder in any given scenario is worth more than Martin. You're even saying to ''build'' Joshua's popularity so therefore to make Joshua vs Wilder purses no less than double digits in Vegas or the UK, Wilder asking for 7 million to fight Whyte in the UK is more than justified.

Hearn is an idiot. Matchroom are obviously ducking with tactic low ball offers to make Wilder and Haymon look to be ducking ... no way Jose