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  • #61
    Just as I predicted. Broadhurst and many Aussie fighters pad their records then get blown away as soon as they step up.
    Broadhurst looked like he had good stance and concentration at the beginning but once Bivol started to back him up, all it took was a short right. And it wasn't even a loaded up, plant your feet power punch but more just a quick lead right.
    I can see perhaps why Jack vacated. Bivol should seek out Stevenson next. I'd love to see that guy gone for good.

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    • #62
      Soon to answer some question about Bivol

      I am sorry; but, this fight don't tell me sh¡t about Dmitry Bivol. When he face Sullivan Barrera, Arthur Berteviev, Hell!!! even Isaac Chilemba, to name a few. If he fight one of those fighter and win, then, this is going to answer some question about Bivol.:ANYWORD:
      Last edited by Dasmius Shinobi; 11-05-2017, 11:46 AM. Reason: corrections

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Dasmius Shinobi View Post
        I am sorry; but, this fight don't tell me sh¡t about Dmitry Bivol. When he face Sullivan Barrera, Arthur Berteviev, Hell!!! even Isaac Chilemba, to name a few. If he fight one of those fighter and win, then, this is going to answer some question about Bivol.:ANYWORD:
        Gvozdyk, Barrera are more proven. Hell, Smith Jr is more proven.

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        • #64
          Good idea

          Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
          Gvozdyk, Barrera are more proven. Hell, Smith Jr is more proven.
          I like your idea about a fight with Dmitry Bivol vs Joe Smith Jr.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by g27region View Post
            There's only one fighter to beat at 175 and it's Stevenson. And Stevenson is a joke at this point

            Kovalev doesn't matter

            All of these other fighters are contenders

            So you can name any of these prospects and say they're potentially best in the division for you (Barrera/Gvozdyk and etc). All of these guys has potential but not resume

            And somebody said Max didn't even say that Bivol is the best



            which sounds right and nothing wrong with saying it
            HOw does Kovalev not matter?

            Guy was a almost unanimous Top 5 P4P fighter last year and barely (if) lost to Andre Ward twice.

            He's only lost to a guy considered no.1 P4P and was considered the guy at 175 before Ward, so why now that Ward's retired isn't Kov considered the guy again

            Stevenson's the one that doesn't matter.

            Originally posted by MaksBox View Post
            Go watch Bivols previous fights and his progress.

            Yes he is definitely top 5 today. The best? No.

            That would still be Kovalev.

            Adonis chickensen is the Wilder of LHw, will not fight anyone who is dangerous.

            Barrera is good but getting old, Bivol will have the stamina against him, no doubt.

            Bivol will grow into a good champion and he does want to fight the top guys. Listen to his interviews.

            Btw for the idiots who have not seen a map, half of Russia is located in Asia. Most of population is located in western Russia, ie Europe, but majority of land mass is Asian
            Wilder is NOT Stevenson

            He tried to fright Ortiz and Povetkin and Fury before Fury fought Wlad.

            It's not his fault they all either doped or ducked him.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
              HOw does Kovalev not matter?
              Oh man, some NSB posters know that my dislike for Kovalev is something irrational and unexplainable, but okay

              Because he lost twice in the row, and Stevenson is the champ , Kovalev isn't.

              Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
              Guy was a almost unanimous Top 5 P4P fighter last year and barely (if) lost to Andre Ward twice.
              What do you mean by "if"? Fighters of Ward's caliber SUPPOSED to beat fighters of Kovalev's caliber 100 times out of 100

              Kovalev has decent speed and timing, he has good Soviet technique called "челнок" (chelnok) in his arsenal that caused some problems to Ward in the first half of the fight. As soon as Ward's movement got little bit more difficult and unpredictable, Kovalev got done.

              Some people also said he's going to get exposed and he's a hypejob before Ward fight.

              I don't think he's a hypejob though, he's a good boxer, he was better than Stevenson BEFORE Ward fought him. But you have to deal with reality, right now Stevenson is the champ and Kovalev is a contender

              I can't consider any fighter to be the man of his weight class if he lost twice, same with Chocolatitio. He was in my p4p after losing to that Thai guy, because anybody can lose in a close fight and I've scored it for Gonzalez, but not anymore

              Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
              He's only lost to a guy considered no.1 P4P and was considered the guy at 175 before Ward, so why now that Ward's retired isn't Kov considered the guy again
              Before considering him to be the man of anything, he has to prove that his soul wasn't taken in that fight, he has to prove he still can be the force to be reckoned with. It's a difficult task with fighters like Barrera, Bivol, Beterbiev and Gvozdyk, that's a pack of wolves and they're definitely not Agnews, Sillakhs or Cleverlys. And EVERYBODY seen his weak spots, I mean every good light heavyweight - vulnerable body, no inside game, emotionally unstable (which was the reason why he got fatigued, not because of his physical conditions). A good boxer can EXPOSE your weak spots for other boxers to EXPLOIT them later

              Again, the status has to be regained for Kovalev, soon he'll realise he shouldn't be coming back from that little spiritual adventure and it's better to stay in that Holy Athos Mount in Greece
              Last edited by g27region; 11-06-2017, 10:51 AM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by g27region View Post
                Oh man, some NSB posters know that my dislike for Kovalev is something irrational and unexplainable, but okay

                Because he lost twice in the row, and Stevenson is the champ , Kovalev isn't.



                What do you mean by "if"? Fighters of Ward's caliber SUPPOSED to beat fighters of Kovalev's caliber 100 times out of 100

                Kovalev has decent speed and timing, he has good Soviet technique called "челнок" (chelnok) in his arsenal that caused some problems to Ward in the first half of the fight. As soon as Ward's movement got little bit more difficult and unpredictable, Kovalev got done.

                Some people also said he's going to get exposed and he's a hypejob before Ward fight.

                I don't think he's a hypejob though, he's a good boxer, he was better than Stevenson BEFORE Ward fought him. But you have to deal with reality, right now Stevenson is the champ and Kovalev is a contender

                I can't consider any fighter to be the man of his weight class if he lost twice, same with Chocolatitio. He was in my p4p after losing to that Thai guy, because anybody can lose in a close fight and I've scored it for Gonzalez, but not anymore



                Before considering him to be the man of anything, he has to prove that his soul wasn't taken in that fight, he has to prove he still can be the force to be reckoned with. It's a difficult task with fighters like Barrera, Bivol, Beterbiev and Gvozdyk, that's a pack of wolves and they're definitely not Agnews, Sillakhs or Cleverlys. And EVERYBODY seen his weak spots, I mean every good light heavyweight - vulnerable body, no inside game, emotionally unstable (which was the reason why he got fatigued, not because of his physical conditions). A good boxer can EXPOSE your weak spots for other boxers to EXPLOIT them later

                Again, the status has to be regained for Kovalev, soon he'll realise he shouldn't be coming back from that little spiritual adventure and it's better to stay in that Holy Athos Mount in Greece
                Losing to the P4P king, especially when most people think he won the first fight, shouldn't knock him out of the 175 rankings.

                It'd be different if he got blown out, but he didn't.

                Chocolatito did get blown out in that 2nd fight.

                Kovalev just lost (both times controversially)

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
                  Losing to the P4P king, especially when most people think he won the first fight, shouldn't knock him out of the 175 rankings.

                  It'd be different if he got blown out, but he didn't.

                  Chocolatito did get blown out in that 2nd fight.

                  Kovalev just lost (both times controversially)
                  His wins matters, not his L's. And his wins are ancient B Hop and super middleweight bodybuilder Pascal. As long as he was the king of LHW with three belts his p4p spot was deserved. I'd even agree that he deserves the credit if he had solid resume to begin with.

                  But his resume is nothing special, Barrera who was a tune up for Ward would be the best win for Kovalev. I've said it before Barrera destoyed Shab and that contstruction worker. He doesn't have belts, he doesn't have the king status, coming off two losses on his record, he shouldn't be considered p4p, he has to prove his status to new killers, Gvozdyk, Bivol, Barrera. And if he can do that, we can give him his crown back but that's a big fucking IF

                  Kovalev had competitive first fight with Pascal. Pascal got outboxed by the Cuban guy. What happened with that Cuban guy in his fight with Gvozdyk?

                  Alvarez outboxed Pascal easily too

                  Kovalev went 12 competitive rounds with Chilemba. What happened with Chilemba in his fight with Gvozdyk?

                  What happened with Cleverly when he fought Badou Jack?

                  What about that beating Bivol gave to Cerdic Agnew?

                  What happened with Campillo when he fought Beterbiev?

                  The point is, this era of LHW's is way more dangerous than the era when Kovalev was coming up. Bivol, Jack, Barrera, Beterbiev and Gvozdyk are not Cedric Agnews, they beat former Kovalev's victims with EASE

                  And it's better to get KO'd like Chocolatitio than giving up like Kovalev in the second fight

                  I'd say feed him to young wolves
                  Last edited by g27region; 11-06-2017, 11:33 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by g27region View Post
                    His wins matters, not his L's. And his wins are ancient B Hop and super middleweight bodybuilder Pascal. As long as he was the king of LHW with three belts his p4p spot was deserved. I'd even agree that he deserves the credit if he had solid resume to begin with.

                    But his resume is nothing special, Barrera who was a tune up for Ward would be the best win for Kovalev. I've said it before Barrera destoyed Shab and that contstruction worker. He doesn't have belts, he doesn't have the king status, coming off two losses on his record, he shouldn't be considered p4p, he has to prove his status to new killers, Gvozdyk, Bivol, Barrera. And if he can do that, we can give him his crown back but that's a big fucking IF

                    Kovalev had competitive first fight with Pascal. Pascal got outboxed by the Cuban guy. What happened with that Cuban guy in his fight with Gvozdyk?

                    Alvarez outboxed Pascal easily too

                    Kovalev went 12 competitive rounds with Chilemba. What happened with Chilemba in his fight with Gvozdyk?

                    What happened with Cleverly when he fought Badou Jack?

                    What about that beating Bivol gave to Cerdic Agnew?

                    What happened with Campillo when he fought Beterbiev?

                    The point is, this era of LHW's is way more dangerous than the era when Kovalev was coming up. Bivol, Jack, Barrera, Beterbiev and Gvozdyk are not Cedric Agnews, they beat former Kovalev's victims with EASE

                    And it's better to get KO'd like Chocolatitio than giving up like Kovalev in the second fight

                    I'd say feed him to young wolves
                    LMAO, Kovalev & Pascal competitive?

                    In what world.

                    Kovalev beat Pascal from pillar to post for the entire fight, and people were just surprised because Pascal had a FEW moments during the fight.

                    And then they fought again and Kovalev just demolished him.

                    Who has Bivol fought?

                    Who has Stevenson fought?

                    I rank an old Hopkins who was still competitive over any of those guys Bivol has fought.

                    And like I said, the MAJORITY of the world thinks he beat Andre Ward (the consensus P4P king before his retirement) the first fight.

                    IF you just don't like the guy then fine, but don't pretend you're being rational about this.

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                    • #70
                      Bivol has that effortless but powerful technique similar to Golovkin.

                      I'd like to see Bivol and Beterbiev fight in the future regardless of results. Should make for a decent war.

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