Wilder vs Stiverne purses (Stiverne won't get the step-aside money)

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HOW RING MAGAZINE HAS CHANGED RULES TO BENEFIT HBO FIGHTERS AND HARM SHOWTIME FIGHTERS


1. HBO desperately wanted the lengthy build towards Ward vs Kovalev to culminate in establishing a new lineal champion after being embarrassed when Adonis Stevenson left for Showtime. So they leaned on their trusty lead promoter Oscar De La Hoya to figure out how to crown Andre Ward or Sergey Kovalev as lineal champion when Adonis Stevenson was already the lineal champion.

So Ring magazine created a new rule that violated the very nature of the lineal championship. Ring magazine instituted mandatory defenses. If you don't fight a top 5 contender from their rankings, they can strip you (if it benefits HBO). Keep in mind all of the rules, new and old, are selectively enforced to benefit HBO and harm Showtime.

But wait, this new rule would result in Canelo being stripped as well, so they made the rule even more ridiculous, you had to defend against a top 5 contender FROM ANY WEIGHT CLASS. Why? So that Amir Khan would qualify as Canelo's "mandatory" and allow Canelo to keep the title, while ridiculously stripping Adonis Stevenson of the lineal title. That's right. Canelo is middleweight champion despite never ever winning a fight with a 160 pound limit, but Adonis was stripped without losing, while remaining active, and sure enough, HBO got their wish and Andre Ward was crowned Ring magazine champion.


2. HBO is scared to death of Showtime being able to crown a lineal world heavyweight champion, so to make sure that Joshua vs Wilder can't be for the Ring title, Tyson Fury continues to be recognized as Ring champion.

Doing so has required Ring to break several rules in an effort to benefit HBO and harm Showtime.

#1 - TYSON FURY PUBLICLY RETIRED!!! That's right. The very thing that has always caused a lineal title to become vacant, retirement, was blatantly ignored by Ring magazine to ensure that Showtime couldn't have the heavyweight champion.

But since Andre Ward is now a free agent and not obligated to HBO, he was stripped upon retirement so that HBO can try to crown a new "lineal" champion if/when Kovalev fights Barrera next year. That's right, never forget that Ring can have #2 fight #5 for the vacant "lineal" title if HBO wants them to. There is no journalistic integrity anymore, which is why every respected journalist quit the Ring ratings panel and started TBRB instead.

#2 - Not only did Tyson Fury retire, he hasn't fulfilled Ring's mandatory rule about top 5 contenders. Has he been stripped like Adonis Stevenson? Nope.

#3 - Tyson Fury hasn't fought in TWO YEARS. Ring rules say you are stripped after 18 months if you don't fight. Why is Fury still the champion?!

#4 - Tyson Fury failed a drug test, which under Ring rules should result in you being stripped.

Tyson Fury, based on FOUR DIFFERENT violations of Ring policy, was supposed to be stripped, but they haven't done it because HBO doesn't want them to. This is what happens when you allow "independent" rankings to be PURCHASED BY HBO'S LEAD PROMOTER!!!

So Ring magazine says Tyson Fury is heavyweight champion, despite Tysons' public retirement, drug test failure, failure to fight a top contender in two years and failure to fight anyone at all in 18 months.

Ring magazine says Canelo is middleweight champion despite Canelo publicly declaring he wasn't middleweight champion anymore and never actually winning a fight contracted at the middleweight limit.

Meanwhile, Adonis Stevenson, who is the clear lineal champion, and knocked out Tony Bellew in a mandatory defense who went on to win the CRUISERWEIGHT championship and become a big name at HEAVYWEIGHT, was stripped of his Ring title for not fighting their mandatory, making them just as corrupt as any sanctioning body.

Any poster who points to Ring rankings as an unbiased source should be immediately banned from this site.

[Afi23]

Not a problem. It's nice to be able to have a civilized discussion between two reasonable adults. Very rare on this site unfortunately.

Indeed!

At first, I thought there would be a possibility for him to keep the "step aside money" depending on how that contract was written. For example, "you keep the money as soon as Wilder vs Ortiz is signed regardless of what happens afterwards"

[champion4ever]

Turned down $4 mil to make $1.4 mil. Not scared though.

What do you not understand about mandatory challenges? Besides, he had nothing to prove against Dillian Whyte. He would've stopped or knocked him out in less than three rounds anyhow.

[Robbie Barrett]

What do you not understand about mandatory challenges? Besides, he had nothing to prove against Dillian Whyte. He would've stopped or knocked him out in less than three rounds anyhow.

Was Ortiz mandatory?

The 4+ mil offer was made in July.

[john l]

http://www.thesweetscience.com/featu...ccupy-the-ring

I don't like their new championship policy but 1 little deal about Hopkins don't think proves bias.I mean Canelo is their cash cow and he has never been overrated.Just have seen no real bias.Buit we will see going forward because they just fired M Rosenthal and put Dougie Fisher in charge from what I hear and he is really biased.

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I don't like their new championship policy but 1 little deal about Hopkins don't think proves bias.I mean Canelo is their cash cow and he has never been overrated.Just have seen no real bias.Buit we will see going forward because they just fired M Rosenthal and put Dougie Fisher in charge from what I hear and he is really biased.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18193413&postcount=71

[WhatDisButtonDo]

damn...he would have gotten more just to **** off

Lmaoooo this reminds me of the wire with Orlando and they pay this dude NOT to sell drugs and he does it anyway and gets arrested.

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HOW RING MAGAZINE HAS CHANGED RULES TO BENEFIT HBO FIGHTERS AND HARM SHOWTIME FIGHTERS


1. HBO desperately wanted the lengthy build towards Ward vs Kovalev to culminate in establishing a new lineal champion after being embarrassed when Adonis Stevenson left for Showtime. So they leaned on their trusty lead promoter Oscar De La Hoya to figure out how to crown Andre Ward or Sergey Kovalev as lineal champion when Adonis Stevenson was already the lineal champion.

So Ring magazine created a new rule that violated the very nature of the lineal championship. Ring magazine instituted mandatory defenses. If you don't fight a top 5 contender from their rankings, they can strip you (if it benefits HBO). Keep in mind all of the rules, new and old, are selectively enforced to benefit HBO and harm Showtime.

But wait, this new rule would result in Canelo being stripped as well, so they made the rule even more ridiculous, you had to defend against a top 5 contender FROM ANY WEIGHT CLASS. Why? So that Amir Khan would qualify as Canelo's "mandatory" and allow Canelo to keep the title, while ridiculously stripping Adonis Stevenson of the lineal title. That's right. Canelo is middleweight champion despite never ever winning a fight with a 160 pound limit, but Adonis was stripped without losing, while remaining active, and sure enough, HBO got their wish and Andre Ward was crowned Ring magazine champion.


2. HBO is scared to death of Showtime being able to crown a lineal world heavyweight champion, so to make sure that Joshua vs Wilder can't be for the Ring title, Tyson Fury continues to be recognized as Ring champion.

Doing so has required Ring to break several rules in an effort to benefit HBO and harm Showtime.

#1 - TYSON FURY PUBLICLY RETIRED!!! That's right. The very thing that has always caused a lineal title to become vacant, retirement, was blatantly ignored by Ring magazine to ensure that Showtime couldn't have the heavyweight champion.

But since Andre Ward is now a free agent and not obligated to HBO, he was stripped upon retirement so that HBO can try to crown a new "lineal" champion if/when Kovalev fights Barrera next year. That's right, never forget that Ring can have #2 fight #5 for the vacant "lineal" title if HBO wants them to. There is no journalistic integrity anymore, which is why every respected journalist quit the Ring ratings panel and started TBRB instead.

#2 - Not only did Tyson Fury retire, he hasn't fulfilled Ring's mandatory rule about top 5 contenders. Has he been stripped like Adonis Stevenson? Nope.

#3 - Tyson Fury hasn't fought in TWO YEARS. Ring rules say you are stripped after 18 months if you don't fight. Why is Fury still the champion?!

#4 - Tyson Fury failed a drug test, which under Ring rules should result in you being stripped.

Tyson Fury, based on FOUR DIFFERENT violations of Ring policy, was supposed to be stripped, but they haven't done it because HBO doesn't want them to. This is what happens when you allow "independent" rankings to be PURCHASED BY HBO'S LEAD PROMOTER!!!

So Ring magazine says Tyson Fury is heavyweight champion, despite Tysons' public retirement, drug test failure, failure to fight a top contender in two years and failure to fight anyone at all in 18 months.

Ring magazine says Canelo is middleweight champion despite Canelo publicly declaring he wasn't middleweight champion anymore and never actually winning a fight contracted at the middleweight limit.

Meanwhile, Adonis Stevenson, who is the clear lineal champion, and knocked out Tony Bellew in a mandatory defense who went on to win the CRUISERWEIGHT championship and become a big name at HEAVYWEIGHT, was stripped of his Ring title for not fighting their mandatory, making them just as corrupt as any sanctioning body.

Any poster who points to Ring rankings as an unbiased source should be immediately banned from this site.

2017 NSB Best Post of the Year

[THC]

HOW RING MAGAZINE HAS CHANGED RULES TO BENEFIT HBO FIGHTERS AND HARM SHOWTIME FIGHTERS
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Thanks for this illuminating post. I think most long time fans are accustomed to the corruption within the sport, but it's still deeply sobering and frustrating nonetheless.