Comments Thread For: Povetkin vs. Hammer Finalized - Winner Gets Joseph Parker Shot!

[Kiowhatta]

This is the 21st century. 100% 'clean' athletes simply don't exist excluding extremely rare instances.

I actually agree which is disconcerting. I think the line between 'supplements' and 'PED's' is growing ever more blurry.
When I look at Anthony Joshua I can't help but think 'how the hell do you get that much muscle mass?

I'm not saying he's juicing, but Jesus, he's gotta be working hard to produce that amount of lean muscle.

Bert Cooper (who some may remember) was formerly a bodybuilder before he strayed into boxing and under the tutelage of Joe Frazier. But how he kept that Adonis Physique is intriguing - especially in the Holyfield fight when he was given something like a weeks notice.

[alexguiness]

Both hammer and Parker should be easy work for Povetkin.

Joshua VS Povetkin is the best HW fight out there ATM.

[Mr Objecitivity]

I actually agree which is disconcerting. I think the line between 'supplements' and 'PED's' is growing ever more blurry.
When I look at Anthony Joshua I can't help but think 'how the hell do you get that much muscle mass?

I'm not saying he's juicing, but Jesus, he's gotta be working hard to produce that amount of lean muscle.

Bert Cooper (who some may remember) was formerly a bodybuilder before he strayed into boxing and under the tutelage of Joe Frazier. But how he kept that Adonis Physique is intriguing - especially in the Holyfield fight when he was given something like a weeks notice.

Exactly! I challenge anybody to find me any heavyweight from the 1940's, 1950's or even the 1960's that had the physique of Anthony Joshua. Doesn't matter if they were elite heavyweight boxers at their time or not. It is practically non-existent. This is because, the modern heavyweights who have the unique physique that they do, are able to develop their physiques due to the supplements they consume. Remove all of that, the modern heavyweights won't be that much different from the heavyweights of those aforementioned times.

So the idea that some heavyweights like Povetkin and Ortiz are exclusively enhanced chemically whilst the idea that others like Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder are 100% clean is a totally ridiculous notion from the perspective of the 21st century. The likes of Joshua and Wilder must be enhancing themselves too in someway or another. However, the authorities cherry pick who they will penalize and who they won't.

Ultimately, why should it matter if boxers take PED in the 21st century? If one boxer takes one supplement (that is banned) to enhance themselves whilst another boxer takes another supplement (that isn't banned) and they both end up reaping the same benefits, then who cares? It's an even playing field so why not let the fight go on. How are any of Anthony Joshua's opponents in any more danger than Povetkin's if both are consuming supplements and are chemically enhanced?

People don't think these things through properly these days!

[jas]

lol wtf

money rules the sport

if the fans in russia cared about povetkin pedding up they would not tune in and this wouldnt occur but until that it will carry on

[P4Pdunny]

Two known ped users go at it to get a shot at the worst heavyweight champion in a decade. This is why I love this sport.

Sums it right up!

[P4Pdunny]

Povetkin's 9 lives bailing him out again..

[TheCell8]

Basically Povetkin will be the WBO champ. Parker has no shot against him.

[Chrismart]

Povetkin wins both those fights i reckon.

[Jewish-Reptile]

how in the hell do you fail 2 drug tests in 2016 and get a title eliminator fight in 2017??

Have Andriy Ryabinsky promote you and RUSADA handle your PED testing, specifically. Their is absolutely no doubt this guy was juicing against Wlad, as Wach was too. He was dirty against Duhaupas that's actually confirmed so calls into doubt his Perez and Takam wins.

Does this guy have any credible wins ? I have no idea who handled testing versus Chagaev. Here we have a guy who has the best legacy of work outside of Wlad in recent years but bares no credibility whatsoever from juicing just like Ortiz whom also has a solid stock of work but every fight is called into doubt a la Thompson, Jennings, Scott etc...

[Jewish-Reptile]

Basically Povetkin will be the WBO champ. Parker has no shot against him.

Parker should enter into purses, have money placed in escrow and testing handled by VADA, he won't even have to fight and he'll take the purse.