Comments Thread For: Parker Will Face Joshua Next - If Offer Gets "Substantial" Increase

[ArtyApe]

why does he deserve anywere close to that he can have new zeland income aj has uk income they split the rest 60 40 to aj sounds fair enough joshua just given his money to an unknown source really parker not known beyond new zeland like saying takham or molina deserved a 50 50 cut

60/40 seems reasonable if your talking about the gate sales, and the rest of the world. then yeah I guess that would be fine. What your saying would still be more than 20% makes sense as well.

[ArtyApe]

It amazes me that anyone bought that piece of garbage PPV. Hughie should go back to chasing hedgehogs in a gypsy RV park. I think Peter Fury would've put up more of a fight. Hughie isn't even a mover, he's a runner. He lands nothing, holds all fight and expects a gift decision. He mimics his cousin Tyson's style but he's the poor man's Fury without a doubt.

Lol I'm not going to disagree with you on that. Styles make fights, they also put parker in with him being heavier than his usual weight against a guy that could run.

[ArtyApe]

Realistically Parker would be generating about 10% at a mega push of the income for the fight which is why 20% is fair.

Ego or no ego aj is the one making the money here he isn't a charitable foundation.

It's like I said you are being blinded by terms like 80/20. If I said ok give him a flat fee of 6 mil would you think that's fair? That's probably what he will end up walking away with which is way more than what he's got before.

Ajs fans do want to see him unify it's just we are smart enough to know the unifications were never going to happen at this point due to the ibf mandatory. Aj himself has spoke about unifying probably more than he's spoke about the Whyte rematch but that doesn't suit your agenda so im not surprise you didn't mention that

The whole charity line works both ways you know.

Parkers not a charity either and if they stick with that number he will just take other fights.

Why would anyone want to fight in the uk with UK refs and UK judges being biased for a UK champ.

Atleast make it worth his while to go into enemy territory.

Atleast parker wants to travel unlike Aj who goes on about not having to leave the uk.

Previous champs fought all over the worls

[KillaCamNZ]

What fools parker is being promoted by probly made 600k for hughie fight max a 20% cut of joshua fight least 5m should be jumping at it they will price themselves out idiots at a shot of holding ibo ibf wba wbo and ring mag belts and 5m in bank parker and wilder should really fight each other the winner go to the table with aj in a much stronger postion then

Parker was guaranteed $2.4mil minimum after the first purse bid, when the fight was meant to be in NZ.

I doubt that went down to $600k in the UK.

EDIT - You've been soundly demolished by ScottWeiland. Have a nice day.

[The D3vil]

"Unification" means d1ck. Nobody cares about titles. Hell, Ring still has Tyson Fury has the Heavyweight Champ. Titles are a joke period, and the fact that you are implying having an ABC title entitles you to a bigger cut shows that you're totally clueless on how the business end of boxing works.

Let's not go that far, the only reason we care about him fighting Fury, Wilder, and Parker is because they hold titles.

It's the reason everybody wanted to see Joshua fight Charles Martin.

But that being said, Parker should consider this.

What does he have to lose?

He can make 5 or 6 mil, and even if he loses, it doesn't really mean anything because he's so young that he's not gonna even reach his prime for another 8 years, so it's not all over for him.

If he was a long time champ in his 30s, I'd never say that, but he's so young and has nothing to lose, so, meh

[K Man]

WBA mandatory soon?

Does Joshua have a WBA mandatory coming up?

[Fabes88]

The whole charity line works both ways you know.

Parkers not a charity either and if they stick with that number he will just take other fights.

Why would anyone want to fight in the uk with UK refs and UK judges being biased for a UK champ.

Atleast make it worth his while to go into enemy territory.

Atleast parker wants to travel unlike Aj who goes on about not having to leave the uk.

Previous champs fought all over the worls

The charity line doesn't work both ways. Parker is asking for money he would not be able to make otherwise. Aj makes this money with or without Parker. He can take other fights for less money but he'd just be cutting his nose of to spite his face. I don't see how a career high payday isn't worth his while. The reason why he will fight in the U.K. With U.K. Refs is because he won't make any more money elsewhere. Who else is going to pay him that kind of money, wilder? Wilder doesn't even make that himself lol.

Do you think Parker would leave new zeleand if he was generating 20 million pound purses? I'm sure you're going to say he would do but I guess we will never know for sure.

Joshua has never said he doesn't want to fight outside of the U.K. He's just said he doesn't feel like he needs to go to America to be a huge star. HEs spoke multiple times about fighting in Africa and other countries.

[b d w]

Nah it's not quite that simple.

Wilder and Parker both have the power to cut AJ's earnings in two.

By fighting each other, Joshua will only have 1 unification fight to make = i.e. half the money. You can say that he could make money fighting anyone - and while I think he'd make lots of money fighting someone like Haye or Fury, he's not going to make that much more in non-unification fights.

Moreover the winner of Parker-Wilder would have 2 belts and a significantly boosted profile, making a 50-50 split possible, further eroding Joshua's earnings.

This is where we will disagree. If we think of it, Joshua is a business model run out of Great Britain, (if he can one day conquer the American market then that is cream on the deal) we can start analyzing how he generates his revenue.

At this point under this model he can sell 75,000 stadium tickets to fight Kubrat ****en Pulev, (let that sink in for a minute) as well as getting hundreds of thousands more eyeballs watching the fight on TV. It won't be long before he can fill Wembley Stadium fighting anyone.

Fighting Wilder or Parker in a unification isn't going to make much of a difference to the majority of fans who buy tickets for the fight or purchase PPV on TV and that is because the bulk of these fans are not strictly speaking boxing fans, (maybe casual fans at best) but instead they are Anthony Joshua fans. It simply doesn't matter who he is facing they will purchase the fight regardless. It brings to mind that famous Tyson quote about how he could sell out MSG just by masturbating.

Sure a unification fight might mean a whole lot to hardcore boxing fans like you and I, but it really won't make much of a difference to the bulk of people that purchase his fights and generate most of the revenue.

I'll give you an example of the type of conversation that would go on between a couple of Joshua fans ahead of a fight:

'I'm really excited for the weekend I purchased the PPV for Joshua's next fight.'

'Cool, who is he fighting?'

'I dunno, I think it is.................' (Insert any name here)

'That Kiwi fighter from New Zealand.'

Or,

'That American dude, I think his name is Deon Wilde.'

Or,

'Some Russian guy who's name I can't pronounce.'

My point being most of Joshua's fans don't even understand unifications, other title holder's, undefeated records etc they only care about watching AJ knock someone out. That's it, period.

Too often we as boxing fans get too caught up in records, straps etc when discussing purse splits as we care about the integrity and history of the sport, but really the only thing we need to think about is who produces the bulk of the revenue, that is it.

To put it to you this way, if we were in business together and you were producing 80% of the profit, how would you feel about giving me 40% of those same profits even if I only contributed 20%??

And specifically to your point about Wilder and Parker fighting and halving AJ's income, Wilder could beat Parker then lose to AJ who could then fight Parker with only the 1 loss on his record to Wilder and still do massive business in both fights. His fans will come out to en masse to watch him fight anyone from Wilder to part-time prison guard.

In that sense the business model of Anthony Joshua has transcended the sport itself in the UK and it's why I do feel anything from an 80/20 to 75/25 split (shoot let Parker keep his NZ PPV sales, LOL) is more than fair.

[b d w]

Parker was guaranteed $2.4mil minimum after the first purse bid, when the fight was meant to be in NZ.

I doubt that went down to $600k in the UK.

EDIT - You've been soundly demolished by ScottWeiland. Have a nice day.

Do you know how much of that 'guaranteed' 2.4 mil he was due to actually be paid if that fight had gone ahead in NZ? I guarantee it would rock you if you knew and is more evidence that Dozy Dave Higgins doesn't have a clue what he is doing.

[KillaCamNZ]

Do you know how much of that 'guaranteed' 2.4 mil he was due to actually be paid if that fight had gone ahead in NZ? I guarantee it would rock you if you knew and is more evidence that Dozy Dave Higgins doesn't have a clue what he is doing.

I'm not a fan of Dave Higgins whatsoever, but I'm also not a fan of ignorance, and your initial comment was flat out ****** and uninformed.

If you're going to throw numbers out there, get some sources.