Comments Thread For: DiBella: How Did Inactive Stiverne Become Wilder's Mandatory?

[KING5TWENTY]

Just luke AJ couldnt knock a true bum in takam? You guys are seriously undereducated over seas to the point of embarassment.

[OmarRueben]

Boxing is a joke and Stivierne is a bigger joke

Stivierne does not deserve any title shot-ever

[Lopez_Boxing]

On top of that he had a positive drug test last year (WBC accepted his excuse and forgave him) and he missed another drug test this year (WBC accepted his excuse and forgave him).

http://www.boxingscene.com/bermane-s...stance--110737
http://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-ma...g-test--118772

That’s because Bermane has an excuse for everything. It’s best just to say “yeah yeah whatever”

[Lopez_Boxing]

People here acting like Don King has more pull with the WBC than Al Haymon does in 2017. My belief is that Stiverne was made Wilder's mandatory on Al Haymon's orders, which Don King was obviously thrilled with, because Haymon already had it set up with VADA that the Ortiz fight would never be allowed to happen in order to protect Wilder's weak chin and the "money fight" with Joshua in 2018. So Haymon had Stiverne put as mandatory so that Wilder could have another old, smaller, no risk opponent to fight once they used VADA to get Ortiz out of the way.

This allowed them to:

1. Hype Wilder more by making a matchup with a decent opponent
2. Without having to risk the Joshua money in 2018 by actually having Wilder face the first decent opponent of his career
3. Get Wilder an easy opponent instead who they already know he can beat easily
4. Get Ortiz out of both Wilder and Joshua's way not just for this fight, but for the next 12+ months, enough time to make the money fight

This is just my opinion of what really happened. Everyone wants to just assume the obvious, as if boxing is this straightforward sport, and nothing corrupt could ever happen. In reality, no top Al Haymon cash cow has ever been popped for PEDs in all the years he's been in boxing, but the only two potential threatening opponents of Wilder's career get popped, back-to-back, right at the perfect time to keep him protected for the Joshua fight, and instead of him having to fight a legit mandatory against someone good, they have the replacement opponent set up as Bermaine Stiverne. Everything fell perfectly in place for Al Haymon... yall really think that's an accident? Keep in mind, no one has gotten more favoritism from the WBC the last decade than Al Haymon has. The WBC is to Al Haymon as the WBO is to Bob Arum. And now once again you have the WBC and Al Haymon involved in a situation where everything falls perfectly the way Haymon would have wanted it, but yall think thats just an accident, and both Povetkin and Ortiz just randomly popped for PEDs while no "name" Haymon boxers, or cash cow of any promoter, ever gets popped by VADA?

It seems to me like VADA usually protects money fighters by never popping them for PEDs, and that this time, they simply did the opposite: protect the money, in this case Wilder and Joshua, by popping the only two dangerous mandatory challengers in the division so that Wilder and Joshua wouldn't have to risk losing to them before the money fight could get made (but mostly Wilder).

But, that's just my personal, subjective OPINION.

Well then we know that once AJ signs on to fight wilder, Al is just going to contaminate his sample then tell AJ to admit to using and not disclosing what even said drug he chooses to use. I can’t wait to see what he picks!

[theface07]

Just luke AJ couldnt knock a true bum in takam? You guys are seriously undereducated over seas to the point of embarassment.

Here's the pot calling the kettle black. Dude, you are ignorant as hell and obviously a blatantly bias fan. Takam is tough as nails and was only previously stopped by a juiced to the gills Povetkin. Parker went the distance with him and arguably lost a bunch of rounds. If Wilder fought Takam and he went the distance you'd be taking about how Takam is a legitimate contender and Wilder was tested and came out on top. Admit it.

[juggernaut666]

Here's the pot calling the kettle black. Dude, you are ignorant as hell and obviously a blatantly bias fan. Takam is tough as nails and was only previously stopped by a juiced to the gills Povetkin. Parker went the distance with him and arguably lost a bunch of rounds. If Wilder fought Takam and he went the distance you'd be taking about how Takam is a legitimate contender and Wilder was tested and came out on top. Admit it.

Takam would have probably defeated Povetkin had he came in at 235 like he did for Joshua bc thats his in shape weight not in the 250's . Wilder would never take a Takam fight on two weeks notice anyway which is why his team NEVER has a legit opponent on stand by if a fight falls through .

[Blackclouds]

Here's the pot calling the kettle black. Dude, you are ignorant as hell and obviously a blatantly bias fan. Takam is tough as nails and was only previously stopped by a juiced to the gills Povetkin. Parker went the distance with him and arguably lost a bunch of rounds. If Wilder fought Takam and he went the distance you'd be taking about how Takam is a legitimate contender and Wilder was tested and came out on top. Admit it.

Takam loses to Wilder, he becomes an instant bumb. You can't be mad at folks applying the same toward AJ. Wilder can do what AJ can't, and that's keep throwing if the fighter is holding up well to punches which is bound to happen in boxing. Takam didn't win a round how is that being a legitimate contender?