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  • BIG GUNZ
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    #21
    This is just my opinion:

    Crawford beats Horn by a mid round or late KO/TKO or an almost shutout UD.

    Crawford beats Porter by UD but Porter puts up a solid effort. Crawford wins 8 rounds to 4 or 9 rounds to 3.

    Crawford beats Garcia easily in my opinion. Crawford would box circles around Garcia. If they fight I predict a 10 rounds to 2 fight for Crawford. The only thing that Garcia has going for him against top fighters is his iron chin.

    Crawford beats Thurman 8 rounds to 4. I'm a big fan of Thurman & like his boxing style & he comes across as a genuinely good guy. It's just I think Crawford is the better fighter.

    Crawford vs. Spence is the fight that I have no idea what would happen. It's a clear 50/50 fight but if I had to pick now I'd go with Spence due to him being the bigger guy. Not sure who's more skilled overall though but it would definitely be a good fight.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Sheldon312
      Porter's style is effective for him. You can say "he smothers his work" all you want but he must be doing something right anytime you put Keith and Brook in the hanger like he did.
      At the end of the day he still lost those fights doe & I'd argue if his style wasn't so raw & unpolished with smothering much of his own best work those fights could have went his way cuz those fights were close. Porter is who he is is the problem.

      Loke at Forest vs Mayorga. Forest was a much more skilled fighter compared to Mayorga but look what happenned when they fought. Styles make fights and it has been proven time and time again that boxers and boxer punches don't do that weell against physical and agressive fighters who are effective at what they do.
      I'd argue Mayorga had power to back up his aggression is the thing. Porter is Tim Bradley's big bro with power. Porter doesn't have the power to keep guys as honest as Mayorga did vs Forrest.

      Crawford has never fought anyone as physical or as strong as Porter. For all the praise that Madianna gets on here Porter should be receiving the same paise because porter is head and shoulders above Madianna when it comes to skills.
      Again Maidana has power to back up his aggression. To go with the Bradley comparison again Porter & Bradley don't have the power to back up their aggression so it doesn't have the same impact on the judges giving them more rounds or the opponent being fearful with coming back at them. Porter is physical, but this ain't sumowrestling. Still gotta hit people upside the head & hurt them & Porter isn't gonna KO many tip top guys & his physicality is just gonna get him all intertwined with cats fair too often to prevent his better shots of even landed cleanly to begin with.

      Crawford has show cased his boxing IQ against B-Level and C-Level guys. We would be having a different discusion if he had beaten Prograis, Imam, Pac, or Mikey convincingly. A fighter looks good when he is fighting B-Level fighters. Don't believe me, go back and look at Judah, Broner, Vasquez, Lamont Peterson...etc.

      Like I said, I favor Crawford to beat him but it is not going to be a walk in the park. I have it 8-4 Crawford or 9- 3 Crawford.
      Sure & I didn't dispute Crawford's resume is lacking vs these 147 top 5 type guy, but the thing is Porter isn't THAT far up from some of the guys Crawford has beaten & his style is as simplistic to beat then some of these other guys, even if it looks more in the trenches & challenging, I'd argue. It'll likely be a ugly fight as are many of Porter's fights, but it'll be wide towards Crawford & Porter's clearest L 100% (outside of a head clash or something like that impacting Crawford's performance like I mentioned).

      But sh^t I hope this actually gets made cuz it would be a great first or second fight for Crawford at 147 & we'd not have to agree to disagree about how it ends up going although if we are both in the 9-3 ballpark (which I'd classify as in the realm of easy win as I stated originally idk that there is actually much we are disagreeing on.

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        #23
        Completely disagree that Porter has better boxing skills than Maidana. Porter is good at what he does, but he can be figured out and outboxed as shown by Thurman and Brook. Crawford would outbox him but he could get bullied in spots, it'd be an ugly fight that's for sure.

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          #24
          Originally posted by BIG GUNZ
          This is just my opinion:

          Crawford beats Horn by a mid round or late KO/TKO or an almost shutout UD.

          Crawford beats Porter by UD but Porter puts up a solid effort. Crawford wins 8 rounds to 4 or 9 rounds to 3.

          Crawford beats Garcia easily in my opinion. Crawford would box circles around Garcia. If they fight I predict a 10 rounds to 2 fight for Crawford. The only thing that Garcia has going for him against top fighters is his iron chin.

          Crawford beats Thurman 8 rounds to 4. I'm a big fan of Thurman & like his boxing style & he comes across as a genuinely good guy. It's just I think Crawford is the better fighter.

          Crawford vs. Spence is the fight that I have no idea what would happen. It's a clear 50/50 fight but if I had to pick now I'd go with Spence due to him being the bigger guy. Not sure who's more skilled overall though but it would definitely be a good fight.
          It is just hard for me to give a man the benefit of the doubt over guys who have fought better fighters. A lot of you guys are making it seem as if it is going to be a walk in the park and I just don't see it. I think Crawford will lost at least two fights at 147.

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            #25
            Excellent analysis!

            Now let's all send comments to Crawford's social media handles about how Bob will make in house fights and that he won't allow Crawford fight the other guys at PBC!

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              #26
              Originally posted by _original_
              Completely disagree that Porter has better boxing skills than Maidana. Porter is good at what he does, but he can be figured out and outboxed as shown by Thurman and Brook. Crawford would outbox him but he could get bullied in spots, it'd be an ugly fight that's for sure.
              Porter has the better Jab, footwork, defense, head movement, athleticism, and he cuts off the ring better. All Madianna has over him is hooks and maybe power. Nothing else. Ever since that Floyd vs Madianna 1, people have touted Madianna as some skilled fighter. He is not.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                At the end of the day he still lost those fights doe & I'd argue if his style wasn't so raw & unpolished with smothering much of his own best work those fights could have went his way cuz those fights were close. Porter is who he is is the problem.



                I'd argue Mayorga had power to back up his aggression is the thing. Porter is Tim Bradley's big bro with power. Porter doesn't have the power to keep guys as honest as Mayorga did vs Forrest.



                Again Maidana has power to back up his aggression. To go with the Bradley comparison again Porter & Bradley don't have the power to back up their aggression so it doesn't have the same impact on the judges giving them more rounds or the opponent being fearful with coming back at them. Porter is physical, but this ain't sumowrestling. Still gotta hit people upside the head & hurt them & Porter isn't gonna KO many tip top guys & his physicality is just gonna get him all intertwined with cats fair too often to prevent his better shots of even landed cleanly to begin with.



                Sure & I didn't dispute Crawford's resume is lacking vs these 147 top 5 type guy, but the thing is Porter isn't THAT far up from some of the guys Crawford has beaten & his style is as simplistic to beat then some of these other guys, even if it looks more in the trenches & challenging, I'd argue. It'll likely be a ugly fight as are many of Porter's fights, but it'll be wide towards Crawford & Porter's clearest L 100% (outside of a head clash or something like that impacting Crawford's performance like I mentioned).

                But sh^t I hope this actually gets made cuz it would be a great first or second fight for Crawford at 147 & we'd not have to agree to disagree about how it ends up going although if we are both in the 9-3 ballpark (which I'd classify as in the realm of easy win as I stated originally idk that there is actually much we are disagreeing on.
                If Gamboa could hurt Crawford i'm pretty sure Porter could since Porter has a little bit more pop. If Crawford was an elite defensive fighter I would side with Crawford against most of these guys. But he is there to be hit and that is going to cost him. I've also noticed that when he counters his chin is up in the air. That is bad news if he gets hit by Spence, Porter, Thurman, or Brook.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Sheldon312
                  It is just hard for me to give a man the benefit of the doubt over guys who have fought better fighters. A lot of you guys are making it seem as if it is going to be a walk in the park and I just don't see it. I think Crawford will lost at least two fights at 147.
                  I disagree. I don't see Crawford losing to Horn, Garcia or Porter at all. Horn didn't beat Pacquiao but got a gift decision. Garcia arguably has lost 3 fights not just 1. And Porter always comes up short against elite talent. I suppose Thurman could do it possibly even though I'm almost sure Crawford wins that one. The only one I see Crawford losing to potentially is Spence.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Sheldon312
                    If Gamboa could hurt Crawford i'm pretty sure Porter could since Porter has a little bit more pop.
                    I think Gamboa is more of a puncher than Porter, even if he's a smaller guy. And there is the logic that these things don't necessarily move into the future with them. Cotto's brother hurt Canelo so GGG should really be able to f#ck up Canelo right? Wrong. USS Cunningham dropped Tyson Fury, Klitschko should straight KO him right? Wrong. And numerous other examples like that. I do still have questions about Crawford's chin & thats one of my biggest issues with him these days, but I think its gonna take a guy with more pop than Porter.

                    If Crawford was an elite defensive fighter I would side with Crawford against most of these guys. But he is there to be hit and that is going to cost him. I've also noticed that when he counters his chin is up in the air. That is bad news if he gets hit by Spence, Porter, Thurman, or Brook.
                    Sure Crawford isn't a elite level defensive guy & he does get hit, but he sucks it up & hits guys back too. I don't think I'm even saying he's gonna be the next big thing or nothing crazy. I think he loses to Spence like you, I think he's in close fights with Garcia + Thurman & probably comes up short to both of them. I think be beats Brook cuz of the problems with Brook more than the upsides with Crawford. I don't know that Brook has more than 3 or so fights left in him if he's smart & I wouldn't be surprised if none of them are against name guys or if only 1 is. I think Porter loses to him cuz Porter gots that weird overly aggressive, less effective than he could be pro/am fighting style.

                    So I'm thinking Crawford is ultimately a top 5 guy at 147 & it sounds like you think he's a top 5 or just outside of a top 5 guy. So again we aren't even that far off on our opinions despite disagreements on Porter & Brook.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sheldon312
                      If Gamboa could hurt Crawford i'm pretty sure Porter could since Porter has a little bit more pop. If Crawford was an elite defensive fighter I would side with Crawford against most of these guys. But he is there to be hit and that is going to cost him. I've also noticed that when he counters his chin is up in the air. That is bad news if he gets hit by Spence, Porter, Thurman, or Brook.
                      Gamboa hurt a Crawford struggling to make Lightweight with a punch he didn't see coming.

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