Terence Crawford vs 147 Breakdown/Prediction

[RussB23]

I think he beats everyone but spence. I can see him stopping porter and horn, they both rush in and crawford has great counter punching. He can easily catch one of them and rock them then finish them off.

I think he would absolutely destroy horn though, all across the boards. Horns toughness would just depend on how much a beating he can take.

[Sheldon312]

Eh I think the things I disagree with the most are Crawford is 60/40 vs Horn. I think he schools the f#ck outta Horn & its like a 9-3, 10-2 decision or mid to late round stoppage.

Obviously I'm mostly curious what a 7lb heavier Crawford looks like & how he handles the bigger size of opponents, but if things are basically looking like they did at 140 I can't see Horn being much trouble for Crawford. Crawford is on another skill set level & Horn is just a rough n tumble guy who got a favorable matchup in a favorable venue with an older ring worn legend who probably took the fight wayyyyyyy too lightly if we are being straight up.

I also don't think Porter is gonna have much success with Crawford. I think Crawford beats him easy. Porter is too basic & smothers most of his own best work. I can't really see Porter ever really getting a more defining win then he's gotten yet unless he just meets a name guy at the right time on a downslide or something like that so that Broner win will likely be among his biggest scalps when Porter hangs them up.

And Kell Brook isn't beating any bigger scalps then he's beaten thus far either I don't think. Hell I think he should retire now with all his injuries & I suspect he'll be the boxing version of shellshocked when we see him again & we've for sure seen the best of him already.

The rest I more or less agree with. Thurman & Garcia would be tight ones. And Spence dominates him largely.

But here's to wishing we can be debating these fights more in the near future with some of them being legit made & than we don't gotta just speculate & debate on who's right or wrong it'll get decided by itself.

You severely underrate Porter. Porter is a really good fighter plus the most physical welterweight of all time imo. I'm pretty sure you are basing your opinion on Porter vs Thurman and Brook. Thurman is a big welterweight with great athleticism, hand speed, power, and counter punching ability. Thurman was able to fight off the backfoot and set Porter up for counters. Crawford would not be able to use his power to gain Porter's respect. Crawford probably hits just as hard as Broner or Berto at 147. Brook is a big strong welterweight who used his size and jab to keep Porter at Bay. Brook has significantly more pop than Crawford and Crawford would not be able to do that against Porter because Porter is too strong and relentless. Crawford has never fought a guy who can apply the pressure that Porter can. It wasn't easy for Thurman or Brook so I don't expect it to be easy for Crawford due to the fact that Crawford hasn't fought a guy on the levelof Shawn Porter or even Andre Berto. Jeff Horn is 60/40. I don't see Crawford stopping him but I do favor Crawford winning a UD(hopefully it's in the states)

[Sheldon312]

Horn just as well may be a little better than Molina. Doesn't matter because Crawford is light years better than both

We don't know if TC will actually have more power at 147

I see Crawford destroying Horn NLT 6th/7th round from facial damage and knockdowns

Heard it here first

I just don't see it. We don't even know if Crawford will bring his power up to 147.

[Sheldon312]

I think he beats everyone but spence. I can see him stopping porter and horn, they both rush in and crawford has great counter punching. He can easily catch one of them and rock them then finish them off.

I think he would absolutely destroy horn though, all across the boards. Horns toughness would just depend on how much a beating he can take.

I'm sorry but I think you are being extrmely bias and not using common sense. If Thurman and Brook who are both bigger, stronger, and more powerful than Crawford couldn't stop Porter what makes you think that Crawford will do it. Crawford started at 135. Guys like Porter, Thurman, Brook, and Spence are basically Middleweights squeezing down to welter. Let's not forget that shawn has the best Chin P4P

[boliodogs]

I think Crawford beats them all except Spence who is the best welterweight in the world and would KO Crawford. Thurman couldn't handle Crawford's body punching my opinion but it would be tough fight for Crawford. Crawford would also have close hard fights with Porter and Garcia but I think he would win them. No use worrying about Crawford fighting Brook because Brook won't be fighting at 147 ever again. If he did Crawford would beat him. I don't share your high opinion of Horn. He is indeed a dirty fighter but not a slick one. He only got away with his dirty tactics in the Pacquiao fight because a terrible referee let him do as he pleased. A very old poor version of Pacquiao beat him by a mile and was robbed. His chin wasn't that good. Pacquiao almost KOed him but Pacquiao ran out of gas. I don't think Horn has a chance in hell of beating Crawford even in Australia unless they DQ Crawford for punching too hard. Crawford will go through Horn like a hot knife through warm butter. As for Crawford not being battle tested that's only because he is so good that he beats excellent fighters with ease. When he does get battle tested I believe he will pass those tests in style.

[Sheldon312]

I think Crawford beats them all except Spence who is the best welterweight in the world and would KO Crawford. Thurman couldn't handle Crawford's body punching my opinion but it would be tough fight for Crawford. Crawford would also have close hard fights with Porter and Garcia but I think he would win them. No use worrying about Crawford fighting Brook because Brook won't be fighting at 147 ever again. If he did Crawford would beat him. I don't share your high opinion of Horn. He is indeed a dirty fighter but not a slick one. He only got away with his dirty tactics in the Pacquiao fight because a terrible referee let him do as he pleased. A very old poor version of Pacquiao beat him by a mile and was robbed. His chin wasn't that good. Pacquiao almost KOed him but Pacquiao ran out of gas. I don't think Horn has a chance in hell of beating Crawford even in Australia unless they DQ Crawford for punching too hard. Crawford will go through Horn like a hot knife through warm butter. As for Crawford not being battle tested that's only because he is so good that he beats excellent fighters with ease. When he does get battle tested I believe he will pass those tests in style.

What excellent fighters did he beat and who has he fought that even compares to Danny, Porter, Sadam, Jessie Vargas? Because I don't think he has fought anyone at 140 that is on the same level as these guys. I'm not saying Crawford isn't skilled but i'm also looking at common sense. Crawford started at 135. His defense isn't the best and he has a supect chin. Plus, he has not fought anyone with the power of the top guys at 147. So, please tell me what evidence do we have, based off Crawford's past performances, that he will be able to beat most guys at 147?

[Eff Pandas]

You severely underrate Porter. Porter is a really good fighter plus the most physical welterweight of all time imo. I'm pretty sure you are basing your opinion on Porter vs Thurman and Brook.

I don't think I'm severely underrating Porter. He's a top 5 type guy. But his style is basic, repetitive & predictable. Sure he's physical, but you aren't winning many 147 fights on physicality alone vs top guys. It takes more than that. Thats why Porter is always gonna come up short vs the tip top guys & he'll never be the #1 guy in any deep division.

Who am I supposed to be basing Porter's high water mark on in boxing other than the best guys he's fought? Thats how your ceiling in the sport gets defined isn't it? He surely doesn't suck cuz he's beaten a ton of guys, but his style is primitive compared to the tip top guys. Its like a amateur style taken into the pro game almost. High activity, but not a whole lot of strategy/thinking going on really that I see hence all the smothering of many of his punches.

Crawford would not be able to do that against Porter because Porter is too strong and relentless. Crawford has never fought a guy who can apply the pressure that Porter can.

Idk man. I see a lot of Porter's aggression & pressure as ineffective aggression/pressure is the thing.

And hell man everyone who's had a decent + long amateur career has fought a lot of guys like Porter. Like I said his style is kinda like a pro turn on that amateur ultra aggression cuz we only got 9 minutes to figure this out type mode.

I think Crawford just has Porter walking into sh^t all night & wraps him up when Porter goes one step too close like he does 84 times in every fight damn near. Probably the only way Porter wins this is if the heads clang up & Crawford comes away with damage that hinders his performance.

It wasn't easy for Thurman or Brook so I don't expect it to be easy for Crawford due to the fact that Crawford hasn't fought a guy on the levelof Shawn Porter or even Andre Berto.

I think I like Crawford's boxing IQ more than Thurman or Brook doe. The fact Crawford hasn't been in with the same caliber of guy as the more proven 147lbers is a fair point & I could see there being some rounds or fights where he'll have growing pains & that could very well be against Porter if thats his fight fight at 147 or among his first fights.

Jeff Horn is 60/40. I don't see Crawford stopping him but I do favor Crawford winning a UD(hopefully it's in the states)

Idk that many have seen Horn-pre Manny or what is going on with this guy & the hype some have for him currently. But he's a solid prospect who's overrated right now cuz of the Manny W, but he's not a tip top guy & that'll get figured out real quick when he fights some in their prime tip top guys.

He'll be an afterthought at 147 very soon unless Bob tries to milk him to maximum effect, which is entirely possible. If that fight with Manny had been anywhere except Aussieland Horn probably loses 3 points for all that fouling if not gets straight DQ'd from excessive warnings ffs. F#cking Horn fouled Manny more than Conor fouled Floyd. He's not likely to get that sorta benefit with future refs & he's very regular & open to being hit when he's not fighting MMA vs boxers.

[Sheldon312]

I don't think I'm severely underrating Porter. He's a top 5 type guy. But his style is basic, repetitive & predictable. Sure he's physical, but you aren't winning many 147 fights on physicality alone vs top guys. It takes more than that. Thats why Porter is always gonna come up short vs the tip top guys & he'll never be the #1 guy in any deep division.

Who am I supposed to be basing Porter's high water mark on in boxing other than the best guys he's fought? Thats how your ceiling in the sport gets defined isn't it? He surely doesn't suck cuz he's beaten a ton of guys, but his style is primitive compared to the tip top guys. Its like a amateur style taken into the pro game almost. High activity, but not a whole lot of strategy/thinking going on really that I see hence all the smothering of many of his punches.


Idk man. I see a lot of Porter's aggression & pressure as ineffective aggression/pressure is the thing.

And hell man everyone who's had a decent + long amateur career has fought a lot of guys like Porter. Like I said his style is kinda like a pro turn on that amateur ultra aggression cuz we only got 9 minutes to figure this out type mode.

I think Crawford just has Porter walking into sh^t all night & wraps him up when Porter goes one step too close like he does 84 times in every fight damn near. Probably the only way Porter wins this is if the heads clang up & Crawford comes away with damage that hinders his performance.


I think I like Crawford's boxing IQ more than Thurman or Brook doe. The fact Crawford hasn't been in with the same caliber of guy as the more proven 147lbers is a fair point & I could see there being some rounds or fights where he'll have growing pains & that could very well be against Porter if thats his fight fight at 147 or among his first fights.


Idk that many have seen Horn-pre Manny or what is going on with this guy & the hype some have for him currently. But he's a solid prospect who's overrated right now cuz of the Manny W, but he's not a tip top guy & that'll get figured out real quick when he fights some in their prime tip top guys.

He'll be an afterthought at 147 very soon unless Bob tries to milk him to maximum effect, which is entirely possible. If that fight with Manny had been anywhere except Aussieland Horn probably loses 3 points for all that fouling if not gets straight DQ'd from excessive warnings ffs. F#cking Horn fouled Manny more than Conor fouled Floyd. He's not likely to get that sorta benefit with future refs & he's very regular & open to being hit when he's not fighting MMA vs boxers.

Porter's style is effective for him. You can say "he smothers his work" all you want but he must be doing something right anytime you put Keith and Brook in the hanger like he did. Loke at Forest vs Mayorga. Forest was a much more skilled fighter compared to Mayorga but look what happenned when they fought. Styles make fights and it has been proven time and time again that boxers and boxer punches don't do that weell against physical and agressive fighters who are effective at what they do.

Crawford has never fought anyone as physical or as strong as Porter. For all the praise that Madianna gets on here Porter should be receiving the same paise because porter is head and shoulders above Madianna when it comes to skills.

Crawford has show cased his boxing IQ against B-Level and C-Level guys. We would be having a different discusion if he had beaten Prograis, Imam, Pac, or Mikey convincingly. A fighter looks good when he is fighting B-Level fighters. Don't believe me, go back and look at Judah, Broner, Vasquez, Lamont Peterson...etc.

Like I said, I favor Crawford to beat him but it is not going to be a walk in the park. I have it 8-4 Crawford or 9- 3 Crawford.

[Chollo Vista]

I just don't see it. We don't even know if Crawford will bring his power up to 147.

Even if he doesn't bring his power up to 147. It's still more than enough to beat Jeff Horn. The skill levels between the two fighters are massive

He'd stop him even with 140 lb punching power

[boliodogs]

What excellent fighters did he beat and who has he fought that even compares to Danny, Porter, Sadam, Jessie Vargas? Because I don't think he has fought anyone at 140 that is on the same level as these guys. I'm not saying Crawford isn't skilled but i'm also looking at common sense. Crawford started at 135. His defense isn't the best and he has a supect chin. Plus, he has not fought anyone with the power of the top guys at 147. So, please tell me what evidence do we have, based off Crawford's past performances, that he will be able to beat most guys at 147?

You asked for thought and opinions and you got mine. Too bad if they aren't the same as yours. He beat Gamboa, Postol and the two belt champion from Africa. They were all excellent highly regarded fighters until they ran into Crawford. Crawford just makes it look easy but nobody else was crushing those fighters. Put Vargas or Sadam in front of Crawford and he will crush them too and make it look easy. As for his suspect chin, he has been wobbled a few times but I don't think he has ever been knocked down while most of the guys you are matching him with have been knocked down. 7 pounds just isn't this big jump up in weight. Crawford is a big 140 pounder and should be very comfortable and not giving up weight,size, strength or punching power at 147.